Science/Religion Debate (BE RESPECTFUL)

[Dono]

Originally Posted by EtH

Earth is generally not conceived as heaven, specifically in Christianity as you said. Earth has pain and suffering because this is not paradise. This is the test. We go through this to prove out worth, and prove ourselves as people. God doesn't architect each person to be a good person. God doesn't control it all. Humans are born with freewill, and are not free from concious thought, so decisions are all made from us.

I won't accept that. If god is all good he wouldn't make us suffer. He could just as easily just put us in heaven. Why not? Why only let some of your beings in? All good I would imagine means you want everyone to feel the utmost fulfillment possible, not burn in hell lmao. You can't be 'all good' and create evil.

Also, considering god made all things, we don't have any free will. He's all powerful and controls every aspect. I compare it to running a computer program. If you build a program (and had infinite knowledge) you would know exactly how whatever program you built would run. Some people are just gonna go to hell because they were made that way.

[Dono]

Originally Posted by EtH

Earth is generally not conceived as heaven, specifically in Christianity as you said. Earth has pain and suffering because this is not paradise. This is the test. We go through this to prove out worth, and prove ourselves as people. God doesn't architect each person to be a good person. God doesn't control it all. Humans are born with freewill, and are not free from concious thought, so decisions are all made from us.

I won't accept that. If god is all good he wouldn't make us suffer. He could just as easily just put us in heaven. Why not? Why only let some of your beings in? All good I would imagine means you want everyone to feel the utmost fulfillment possible, not burn in hell lmao. You can't be 'all good' and create evil.

Also, considering god made all things, we don't have any free will. He's all powerful and controls every aspect. I compare it to running a computer program. If you build a program (and had infinite knowledge) you would know exactly how whatever program you built would run. Some people are just gonna go to hell because they were made that way.