EtH's Rant like 6 or something: The White Man Keeping You Down?

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Originally Posted by UnEtH

So as always, when I was debating politics with a black guy, we got to the topic of this fictional white man.

It got me thinking, comparing it to shit I know, and my revelation was this...

There is no inequality based on race. Race is irrelevant. What these 'minorities' are getting wrong is that they are mixing up racism with the class system. Instead of thinking "I live in a shit area because I'm black", why arent you thinking "I live in shit area cause I'm poor". "I can't get into college because I'm black" / "I can't get into college cause I'm poor".

The reason these people live in the "ghetto" isn't because they are black, it's because they are poor. Of any poor family, someone has to overcome. Someone needs to have determination to get into having money, and sadly, if you're one of these people, you're parents weren't that person. Most likely, your parents were stupid enough to have kids young, and while they were broke. Instead of dedicating their life to overcoming poverty and then being able to remove their family, black white or green, from the "ghetto", their focus diverted to keeping their child alive, thus derailing their hopes.

If your poor and blame the "white man", stfu, wear a johnny and don't fuck your future family over.

I agree that people living in the ghetto has more to do with their income level as opposed to what race they are because you find different people living in the ghetto: black, Mexican, white etc. The thing they mostly have in common is the fact that they are poor.
However, I disagree with the notion that there is no racial inequality. That couldn't be further from the truth, and as Dono said, you'd have to be delusional to seriously think that.
With that being said, racial inequality and racial prejudice IS a factor in why some people are poor, and some of those poor people (who happen to live in the ghetto) may extrapolate that to say racial inequality is the reason they live in the ghetto. Whether you agree with that conclusion or not, I don't think it should be too hard to understand why they would arrive at such a conclusion. If you look up the etymology of the word "ghetto" itself, it comes from a 17th century Italian word for a "part of a city to which Jews were restricted." The very word etymologically implies a place where people live based on race. If you see it more as a class issue rather than a race issue, that is understandable. However, to go to the extremity of negating race altogether in order to bolster the idea that it has to do with class is erroneous. It has to do with a little bit of both and other socio-economic factors.
While I do believe that race definitely plays a role in why some people are generally of lower income, I'm against blaming "the white man" or any other external factor. I am actually against blaming anything period. I think blame is a negative expression of the impulse to find a solution. While we seek blame, we're really aiming for a solution to what we face. I think solutions ultimately come when we look at OUR selves and change OUR actions as opposed to seeking to change somebody else.

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Originally Posted by UnEtH

So as always, when I was debating politics with a black guy, we got to the topic of this fictional white man.

It got me thinking, comparing it to shit I know, and my revelation was this...

There is no inequality based on race. Race is irrelevant. What these 'minorities' are getting wrong is that they are mixing up racism with the class system. Instead of thinking "I live in a shit area because I'm black", why arent you thinking "I live in shit area cause I'm poor". "I can't get into college because I'm black" / "I can't get into college cause I'm poor".

The reason these people live in the "ghetto" isn't because they are black, it's because they are poor. Of any poor family, someone has to overcome. Someone needs to have determination to get into having money, and sadly, if you're one of these people, you're parents weren't that person. Most likely, your parents were stupid enough to have kids young, and while they were broke. Instead of dedicating their life to overcoming poverty and then being able to remove their family, black white or green, from the "ghetto", their focus diverted to keeping their child alive, thus derailing their hopes.

If your poor and blame the "white man", stfu, wear a johnny and don't fuck your future family over.

I agree that people living in the ghetto has more to do with their income level as opposed to what race they are because you find different people living in the ghetto: black, Mexican, white etc. The thing they mostly have in common is the fact that they are poor.
However, I disagree with the notion that there is no racial inequality. That couldn't be further from the truth, and as Dono said, you'd have to be delusional to seriously think that.
With that being said, racial inequality and racial prejudice IS a factor in why some people are poor, and some of those poor people (who happen to live in the ghetto) may extrapolate that to say racial inequality is the reason they live in the ghetto. Whether you agree with that conclusion or not, I don't think it should be too hard to understand why they would arrive at such a conclusion. If you look up the etymology of the word "ghetto" itself, it comes from a 17th century Italian word for a "part of a city to which Jews were restricted." The very word etymologically implies a place where people live based on race. If you see it more as a class issue rather than a race issue, that is understandable. However, to go to the extremity of negating race altogether in order to bolster the idea that it has to do with class is erroneous. It has to do with a little bit of both and other socio-economic factors.
While I do believe that race definitely plays a role in why some people are generally of lower income, I'm against blaming "the white man" or any other external factor. I am actually against blaming anything period. I think blame is a negative expression of the impulse to find a solution. While we seek blame, we're really aiming for a solution to what we face. I think solutions ultimately come when we look at OUR selves and change OUR actions as opposed to seeking to change somebody else.