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Levelling the playing field = You also having a gun? Yeah, cause what happens in these situations is two guys turn away from each other and walk twenty paces. Cool story Murica.
In actuality, what happens is one dude walks over to another one and shoots the fuck out of him. No gunfight, just one dude shooting another one, whether the dead dude had a holster or not.
Fuck your gun laws.
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That's a situation that I'm sure has happened many times, just the shitty reality of the merican system. Though the underlying point of my position is that in situations where a violent gun scenario kicks off, and separate gun-owners are in the vicinity, they could save potential victims. Or if the initial victim was carrying a firearm, and the shooter simply misses or something unlucky happens. He can then defend himself, in comparison to the other situation where he'd have to just run, hide, or die
Both of my listed scenarios have also happened, here's a good map to put that across better than my words can
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/05/gu...ers-criminals/
Of the nearly 200 cases we analyzed, people carrying guns saved at least 283 potential victims.
Even still, beyond all that shit, I actually agree that the system is trash. Though until we wizen up I'd much rather be the guy who can adequately defend himself than the guy who simply disagrees with the situation and brings words to a gunfight.
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Levelling the playing field = You also having a gun? Yeah, cause what happens in these situations is two guys turn away from each other and walk twenty paces. Cool story Murica.
In actuality, what happens is one dude walks over to another one and shoots the fuck out of him. No gunfight, just one dude shooting another one, whether the dead dude had a holster or not.
Fuck your gun laws.
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That's a situation that I'm sure has happened many times, just the shitty reality of the merican system. Though the underlying point of my position is that in situations where a violent gun scenario kicks off, and separate gun-owners are in the vicinity, they could save potential victims. Or if the initial victim was carrying a firearm, and the shooter simply misses or something unlucky happens. He can then defend himself, in comparison to the other situation where he'd have to just run, hide, or die
Both of my listed scenarios have also happened, here's a good map to put that across better than my words can
http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/05/gu...ers-criminals/
Of the nearly 200 cases we analyzed, people carrying guns saved at least 283 potential victims.
Even still, beyond all that shit, I actually agree that the system is trash. Though until we wizen up I'd much rather be the guy who can adequately defend himself than the guy who simply disagrees with the situation and brings words to a gunfight.
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Where did you come to this conclusion? In your location that is for the most part, completely gun-less? Well, then I'd say no shit. Meanwhile in an area where guns are common, leveling the playing field becomes more intelligent than sticking to your belief that "no one needs to walk around with a gun."
You'd say no one needs to walk around with a bullet proof vest in an area where no one has ever been shot, too. It's completely relative to the situation you're speaking about, to me.
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Excellent, I assume then that you're for strict gun control and ending open carry to 'level the playing field'. This would save all of you hundreds of dollars and produce the same effect whilst reducing gun crime considerably.
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Where did you come to this conclusion? In your location that is for the most part, completely gun-less? Well, then I'd say no shit. Meanwhile in an area where guns are common, leveling the playing field becomes more intelligent than sticking to your belief that "no one needs to walk around with a gun."
You'd say no one needs to walk around with a bullet proof vest in an area where no one has ever been shot, too. It's completely relative to the situation you're speaking about, to me.
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Excellent, I assume then that you're for strict gun control and ending open carry to 'level the playing field'. This would save all of you hundreds of dollars and produce the same effect whilst reducing gun crime considerably.
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Excellent, I assume then that you're for strict gun control and ending open carry to 'level the playing field'. This would save all of you hundreds of dollars and produce the same effect whilst reducing gun crime considerably.
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"But Nick, criminals will always be able to get guns"
Sure, but when you're facing time in jail and being fined out the ass just for having one, black market prices rise and financially it becomes much more difficult to own a gun.
If people are so shit scared of their houses being broken into, buy an alarm or a dog. Just don't touch the dog inappropriately like Nick does.
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Excellent, I assume then that you're for strict gun control and ending open carry to 'level the playing field'. This would save all of you hundreds of dollars and produce the same effect whilst reducing gun crime considerably.
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"But Nick, criminals will always be able to get guns"
Sure, but when you're facing time in jail and being fined out the ass just for having one, black market prices rise and financially it becomes much more difficult to own a gun.
If people are so shit scared of their houses being broken into, buy an alarm or a dog. Just don't touch the dog inappropriately like Nick does.
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Some states can do it....if Jersey allowed people to carry, Id move.
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Some states can do it....if Jersey allowed people to carry, Id move.
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I got my permit, i hardly carry in places with me but i keep it in my glove box. 9mm Smith and Wesson M&P. 17 round ext clip w/ custom grip
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I got my permit, i hardly carry in places with me but i keep it in my glove box. 9mm Smith and Wesson M&P. 17 round ext clip w/ custom grip
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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This only works in states with open carry laws, though. Unless you're wearing a jacket for concealment.
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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This only works in states with open carry laws, though. Unless you're wearing a jacket for concealment.
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This only works in states with open carry laws, though. Unless you're wearing a jacket for concealment.
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Good point, they allow both where I am. I've been looking into the urban carry holsters, the gun sits on your leg basically but the draw seems like it could be inconvenient in several situations. https://urbancarryholsters.com
Anybody seen or tried one of these?
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This only works in states with open carry laws, though. Unless you're wearing a jacket for concealment.
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Good point, they allow both where I am. I've been looking into the urban carry holsters, the gun sits on your leg basically but the draw seems like it could be inconvenient in several situations. https://urbancarryholsters.com
Anybody seen or tried one of these?
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Good point, they allow both where I am. I've been looking into the urban carry holsters, the gun sits on your leg basically but the draw seems like it could be inconvenient in several situations. https://urbancarryholsters.com
Anybody seen or tried one of these?
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I've been looking at those too. They look really cool but, like you said, the draw seems like it wouldn't be optimal. Sitting seems like one of those situations. It would probably be useless in the car.
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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Doesn't it flop around? I was looking at those too but I was worried about it being annoying as shit.
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When I'm worried about comfort and concealing, I slip my Ruger LCP in my front or back pocket (depending on if I'm sitting for long periods of time). Anything else gets uncomfortable after too long. I have an inside-the-waist holster that work decent with my LCP and my 9. Always nice to have options. Every day is different so carrying the same gun the same way everyday doesn't always work. I wouldn't plan on taking my 7 rd. .380 into a dangerous situation, but its easy to slip in the pocket of a pair of shorts in case of emergency, when concealing my 9mm would be impossible and uncomfortable. Find what works for you and make sure you practice, drawing and shooting over and over again when you find a comfortable carry.
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The C9 is a little heavy and big for pocket carry.
I do practice drawing and getting sight picture and all that as often as I can.
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Good point, they allow both where I am. I've been looking into the urban carry holsters, the gun sits on your leg basically but the draw seems like it could be inconvenient in several situations. https://urbancarryholsters.com
Anybody seen or tried one of these?
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I've been looking at those too. They look really cool but, like you said, the draw seems like it wouldn't be optimal. Sitting seems like one of those situations. It would probably be useless in the car.
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I personally use a shoulder holster, comfortable enough to forget it's there usually.
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Doesn't it flop around? I was looking at those too but I was worried about it being annoying as shit.
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Originally Posted by Blunt Rapper
When I'm worried about comfort and concealing, I slip my Ruger LCP in my front or back pocket (depending on if I'm sitting for long periods of time). Anything else gets uncomfortable after too long. I have an inside-the-waist holster that work decent with my LCP and my 9. Always nice to have options. Every day is different so carrying the same gun the same way everyday doesn't always work. I wouldn't plan on taking my 7 rd. .380 into a dangerous situation, but its easy to slip in the pocket of a pair of shorts in case of emergency, when concealing my 9mm would be impossible and uncomfortable. Find what works for you and make sure you practice, drawing and shooting over and over again when you find a comfortable carry.
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The C9 is a little heavy and big for pocket carry.
I do practice drawing and getting sight picture and all that as often as I can.
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When I'm worried about comfort and concealing, I slip my Ruger LCP in my front or back pocket (depending on if I'm sitting for long periods of time). Anything else gets uncomfortable after too long. I have an inside-the-waist holster that work decent with my LCP and my 9. Always nice to have options. Every day is different so carrying the same gun the same way everyday doesn't always work. I wouldn't plan on taking my 7 rd. .380 into a dangerous situation, but its easy to slip in the pocket of a pair of shorts in case of emergency, when concealing my 9mm would be impossible and uncomfortable. Find what works for you and make sure you practice, drawing and shooting over and over again when you find a comfortable carry.
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When I'm worried about comfort and concealing, I slip my Ruger LCP in my front or back pocket (depending on if I'm sitting for long periods of time). Anything else gets uncomfortable after too long. I have an inside-the-waist holster that work decent with my LCP and my 9. Always nice to have options. Every day is different so carrying the same gun the same way everyday doesn't always work. I wouldn't plan on taking my 7 rd. .380 into a dangerous situation, but its easy to slip in the pocket of a pair of shorts in case of emergency, when concealing my 9mm would be impossible and uncomfortable. Find what works for you and make sure you practice, drawing and shooting over and over again when you find a comfortable carry.
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