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Originally Posted by Rieper

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Originally Posted by Rieper

Kiwi won #1 Contender like 3-4 months ago. He only didn't get his shot because I had to defend my title against people who called me out for it (REZN & Rican), so now he's getting his rightful shot at the title.

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Originally Posted by Punk

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Also, I agree about Auto getting a #1 Contender battle. That should've definitely happened if he won the qualifying battle for it.

Originally Posted by Punk

How's that fair to last months #1C though? like whats the point of having a #1 Contender's match last month if someone from 4 months ago that had a title shot wants it now?

Call outs has always been separate from LBT PPV title matches (you should know because that's how you took mine)

#1 Contenders should ALWAYS get their title matches.. IT NOT FAIR that they have to wait because of some screw up 4 months ago

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Also, I agree about Auto getting a #1 Contender battle. That should've definitely happened if he won the qualifying battle for it.

Originally Posted by Rieper

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

Originally Posted by Rieper

Is it fair that a person who earned their title shot has to wait 4 months to finally be able to take advantage of it, though? I'm just tryna reason with you here.

As far as the whole Bizzy having to send for a title match, we both know that ain't happening. Champ always goes 2nd in the battle unless he chooses not to.

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

Originally Posted by Punk

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Originally Posted by Punk

Not even close to what im saying... If he earned his title shot 4 months ago HE SHOULD'VE BATTLED 4 MONTHS AGO.. Your CALLOUTS ARE SEPERATE from the LBT card its ALWAYS been that way

Whoever ran the cards back then should've known that.. FOR EXAMPLE.... If you received 3 callouts and accepted them all that month.. you were supposed to battle 4 times including the #1 contender.. Not battle the callouts while the #1 contender waits after putting in the actual work.....

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

Originally Posted by Punk

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

I'm implying that you would have the right to call out the champ whenever you want and they couldn't deny your callout because you earned your shot at the title by putting the work. This is to just help out the folks who got screwed by being lost in the shuffle and nothing else.

I'm also saying that Tongan DOES deserve his fair shot at the title match this month and should absolutely get his shot at it this month. I never said he didn't.

Originally Posted by Punk

Lock, i like you.. you know that.. Like a brother man so don't take this debate as an raging argument..

But what im saying is... Kiwi SHOULDVE battled 4 months ago if we wanted to keep things fair.. But this month, we're making it UNFAIR for Tongan but Fair to Kiwi after 4 months because whoever ran the LBT back then (NOT SURE WHO IT WAS) didn't give Kiwi his title shot.....Tongan has NOTHING to do with that. Hell i won my #1 contenders match 6 months months ago.. Do i get a title match next month???

I'm implying that you would have the right to call out the champ whenever you want and they couldn't deny your callout because you earned your shot at the title by putting the work. This is to just help out the folks who got screwed by being lost in the shuffle and nothing else.

I'm also saying that Tongan DOES deserve his fair shot at the title match this month and should absolutely get his shot at it this month. I never said he didn't.

[TKtheGREAT]

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

So I'll battle first and then whomever wins will probably be called out by kiwi, and then have to turn around to defend the title?

[TKtheGREAT]

Originally Posted by Rieper

I'm not saying you're wrong, bro. Lol. I'm just saying is it necessarily fair to Kiwi that he's forced to wait any longer than what he already is just to finally get a shot at the title? You're the one who brought up fairness here and I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here.

Imo Kiwi should have the right to callout the champ whenever he wants now since the flow of events is all fucked up. Kinda like how WWE does the Money In The Bank. The title-holder CAN'T deny the challenge because the person issuing the challenge rightfully earned it in the first place.

How does that idea sound to you guys? That's the best idea I can think of to fix the situation. This would imply that Tongan gets his title match he rightfully earned, but Kiwi could immediately call out whomever wins and the champ can't deny the callout otherwise he forfeits the title.

So I'll battle first and then whomever wins will probably be called out by kiwi, and then have to turn around to defend the title?

Originally Posted by TonganKidd

So I'll battle first and then whomever wins will probably be called out by kiwi, and then have to turn around to defend the title?

That would be the idea yes. Not immediately, but still.

Originally Posted by TonganKidd

So I'll battle first and then whomever wins will probably be called out by kiwi, and then have to turn around to defend the title?

That would be the idea yes. Not immediately, but still.

[TKtheGREAT]

Originally Posted by Rieper

That would be the idea yes. Not immediately, but still.

I dont really care, as long as it's not getting drawn out. It's about half way through december and look where were at....still trying to figure out things from 4 months ago. If we could have cards done in 3 weeks from start to finish, itd leave a 4th week out available for any callouts.

[TKtheGREAT]

Originally Posted by Rieper

That would be the idea yes. Not immediately, but still.

I dont really care, as long as it's not getting drawn out. It's about half way through december and look where were at....still trying to figure out things from 4 months ago. If we could have cards done in 3 weeks from start to finish, itd leave a 4th week out available for any callouts.