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Unread 08-31-2015, 11:31 AM
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Default Idea: Add a tier system

I suggested this shit probably like 100 times throughout my yrs on here but i cant find the thread to bump..

Lightweight, Middleweight, Heavyweight tiers? Beginner, Amateur, Professional, Low, Mid, Top.. or something like Bronze, Silver, Gold

I'm using 3 tiers for a quick example...it can be 5 tiers too. it'd work using similar calculations to the formula we have now... you beat somebody and based on their rank you get X amount of points..except this time the penalties are more/less severe based on your tier

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

if anything you could code an entirely different shit based on points where 0 pts is low tier, 50 for mid tier, and 100 for top tier or some shit.

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Default Idea: Add a tier system

I suggested this shit probably like 100 times throughout my yrs on here but i cant find the thread to bump..

Lightweight, Middleweight, Heavyweight tiers? Beginner, Amateur, Professional, Low, Mid, Top.. or something like Bronze, Silver, Gold

I'm using 3 tiers for a quick example...it can be 5 tiers too. it'd work using similar calculations to the formula we have now... you beat somebody and based on their rank you get X amount of points..except this time the penalties are more/less severe based on your tier

It's simple

Same tier opponent +1 for winning / 0 for participating / 0 for losing
Lower tiered oppponent +0 for winning / 0 for participating / -2 for losing
Higher tiered opponent +2 for winning / +1 for participating / -1 for losing

we can play around with these numbers..^

if anything you could code an entirely different shit based on points where 0 pts is low tier, 50 for mid tier, and 100 for top tier or some shit.

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Didn't we try this with the Tier 1, 2, and 3 awards already?
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Didn't we try this with the Tier 1, 2, and 3 awards already?
 
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
But how do you establish initial tiers, and how do you stop it descending into a pseudo version of the reciprocal fellatio-riddent monthly ranking system? Great idea I admit, but some major hiccups that would need addressed first.

Maybe it could be democratic, to get the first hurdle out the way. Say you collate the names (suggestions from the site) of the 30 best battlers on LB ever. Then the site votes for their favourites, taking it round-for-round, eliminating the winner or top 10 each time so as to establish your initial tiers.

Ionno, I've had a lot to drink. Great idea GodBody, but it needs work.

---------- Post added at 11:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 PM ----------

EDIT: just read through the entire thread.

Points won't work. The wins and losses accrued by battlers haven't counted on this site for a long time. Snipes etc nullify any validity in such a system. See previous post for overly convoluted alternative.
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Nah....that's an entirely different thing thats completely subjective and doesnt calculate skill

what Im proposing will literally be the closest thing this site has to calculating someone's skill level because who you beat or who you lose to will reflect on your tier
But how do you establish initial tiers, and how do you stop it descending into a pseudo version of the reciprocal fellatio-riddent monthly ranking system? Great idea I admit, but some major hiccups that would need addressed first.

Maybe it could be democratic, to get the first hurdle out the way. Say you collate the names (suggestions from the site) of the 30 best battlers on LB ever. Then the site votes for their favourites, taking it round-for-round, eliminating the winner or top 10 each time so as to establish your initial tiers.

Ionno, I've had a lot to drink. Great idea GodBody, but it needs work.

---------- Post added at 11:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:54 PM ----------

EDIT: just read through the entire thread.

Points won't work. The wins and losses accrued by battlers haven't counted on this site for a long time. Snipes etc nullify any validity in such a system. See previous post for overly convoluted alternative.
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that makes alot of sense and should get put into place immediately!
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that makes alot of sense and should get put into place immediately!
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>gets told not to bring up ideas that require coding, because they're impractical at present.

>reiterates the same idea he's made a thread about 10 times that requires coding.
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>gets told not to bring up ideas that require coding, because they're impractical at present.

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What Godbody is suggesting could very easily be achieved through implementing an ELO type system. This would definitely be an improvement on the current ranking system, which is more a measure of prolonged output than genuine skill.

With such a system in place it's then just a case of setting nominal milestones as your tier boundaries. This in turn could allow for more competitions to be run which could encourage newer members of the site to stay involved ('weight championships' and things like mixed tag team tournaments, for example).

I do think that it's quite weird that this website is run with the intent of making money, but without seeing that both time/monetary investment is required to advance it as a product.

Just my thoughts.
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What Godbody is suggesting could very easily be achieved through implementing an ELO type system. This would definitely be an improvement on the current ranking system, which is more a measure of prolonged output than genuine skill.

With such a system in place it's then just a case of setting nominal milestones as your tier boundaries. This in turn could allow for more competitions to be run which could encourage newer members of the site to stay involved ('weight championships' and things like mixed tag team tournaments, for example).

I do think that it's quite weird that this website is run with the intent of making money, but without seeing that both time/monetary investment is required to advance it as a product.

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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
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Technically speaking, this doesn't require coding... it could just be run by hand. Hell, I might be willing to do it if it doesn't require too much thought or effort beyond tabulating battle records.

Godbody's suggestion as he details it is not very well-thought-out; however, a more eloquently-designed system of a similar nature could be nice to have.
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Spoiler for My punches hit you like:
Spoiler for GIF, courtesy of NOBLE:
Spoiler for A wise man once said:
"Wtf are yaw readin nigga this nigga dont even make ssince and have the niggas who comment be garbage but tryna give at vice i been in real battles for money and won i haven't seen not one hot verse on here accept maybe a couple yaw some fuckin haters o. Me i punch this nigga like a speed bag smoked boots"

- space_dabree, discussing the outcome of his battle with Shodan.
Spoiler for More words of wisdom:
"Your iq is too low to vote on my shit. Grab ddthabeast, take some literacy courses, get hooked on phonics and come talk to me then."

- Teeteegee, discussing a fair vote left which Shodan left on a battle of his.
Spoiler for ILLoKWENT's declaration of love:
"fuck off lil faggit.. before i tare your dick off , and shove it up your dads ass while your slut of a mom makes a home video documenting the whole situation as your sister masturbates to mozart.capeesh?" The first person to notice the existence of this line of text and PM me about it is entitled to 50 of the credits on my account. Let's see how long this stays undiscovered. - Added May 1, 2019 - EDIT: Good job Culture for finding this on May 11, 2019! Faster than expect. Prize now rescinded. Will remove this sometime...
- ILLoKWENT, in response to a rhetorical question.
Spoiler for More love from illokwent:
"Because he lacks any form of maturity to do grown folk stuff... And u can quote me on that.."

- Read, and then sigged.


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