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Unread 06-04-2019, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Edgeworth View Post
My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.
But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

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Originally Posted by g u t s View Post
also, fuck you eth. you're a clown. it takes more talent to perform? half of the people on this planet or born with swagger ot naturally good voices. the rest of us who have passion for that field have to practice every day and improve in small increments.
I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.
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Originally Posted by Edgeworth View Post
My point was more like this.

If i take some people on LB and tell them to write whatever 10 lines of something that flows well when spit out loud. With no bar set for the quality of lines, they don’t even have to make sense or be punches. Most would come back with something that rhymes well. Everyone can rhyme words here. Especially with no requisite level of quality within what you’re actually saying in your bars.

Same exercise but I ask them to write 10 haymakers, most are coming back with trash/can’t do it. It takes a lot of creativity and knowledge to write a haymaker punch. You can’t rhymezone your way into a great punch. You can’t word association your way into a great punch. Gotta have it.

Again, I was just saying in that case where it’s one or the other, as HVK proposed. If it’s a battle where it’s atleast somewhat close in bars but the one guy blows it out of the water with delivery then he wins, obviously.
But what you're asking isn't what HVK was asking.

I usuall get told my style would be very suited towards live battling. My focus on making the bars clear, going for comedy and not leaning on expos is the main reasons why.

However I couldn't live battle. I just simple don't sound good. Accent aside I don't have a natural voice for rapping and don't have a natural delivery.

I will never beat M Rock or Allboro in an audio battle. No matter the mic quality. No matter if I could beat them in text battles or not. It'd never happen. I don't have the sound or delivery. Someone like M Rock could 100-0 me using Dafeet bars because his delivery of them would sound dope.

I know everyone likes to pretend writing is this artistic science but typically we all just vote for the verse we enjoyed best.

You know how a battle can get a bunch of votes yet only one or two point out a broken multi? Its cause the rest didnt see it. When they read it out it still flowed. If you enjoy something, youre not picking out small technical flaws.

Same in audio. If one guy sounds slick, great flow, solid sounding rhymes and the other guy was let's say me.... you're not voting for me.

---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------

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Originally Posted by g u t s View Post
also, fuck you eth. you're a clown. it takes more talent to perform? half of the people on this planet or born with swagger ot naturally good voices. the rest of us who have passion for that field have to practice every day and improve in small increments.
I can go to singing lessons every day for the rest of my life. Still can't sing. It doesn't mean those who can don't have to practice every day to improve in small increments, it means that some people just aren't cut out for it.

Sure, people can develop a sick delivery for an audio battle. Build up their flow and become really great. But that wasn't the topic at hand. Someone who sounds really bad (like myself) isn't beating someone who sounds really good.
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