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Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Comparing battle rappers to NBA Legends isn't an accurate analogy. People obviously can't compete at a high level in the NBA for more than 10-15 years, so yeah it's fair to say you can't compare between different eras because the game changes (which is why the MJ/LeBron debate will never hold any weight because the game is drastically different now in comparison to what it was then).

However, battle rappers don't have that problem. Battle rappers and rappers in general have the ability to evolve with the culture changes. Whether they choose to or not is completely up to them. Look at ALL-BORO, for instance. He started on LB well before LBA/LBT ever existed and he's the current LBA Champion. That's an accomplishment taken away from him that he earned all because of the rest of the people from his era aren't active anymore when they choose not to be. Is that fair to BORO? Absolutely not. What makes the old heads anymore special to where LBA/LBT can't be counted against them when one of their own from that era won it and is dominating with it as we speak?

Idk, I'm just not in to the whole handicapping thing with LBA/LBT, as it's been an important aspect of the site since it was first revived by RULE (s/o to @RULE for that, btw).

What's everyone else's thoughts on it?

For me, its not so much about the LBA/LBT as it is about total number of tournaments/ways of earning points available to the battlers and how much of that they win. I get what you're saying in that there's nothing stopping the old heads from coming back and that if they did, the LBT/LBA and all the new tournaments would be just as available to them as it is to those currently active. What I'm saying is if someone only had 4 tournaments available to them during the calendar year and they win two of them, that's 50 percent, whereas someone who has 10 tournaments available and wins two is at 20 percent. Both racked two tournament wins each, but I would consider the one who won 50 percent to be more successful whereas with this list, they're counted equally and its not weighted.

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Hoffa

Comparing battle rappers to NBA Legends isn't an accurate analogy. People obviously can't compete at a high level in the NBA for more than 10-15 years, so yeah it's fair to say you can't compare between different eras because the game changes (which is why the MJ/LeBron debate will never hold any weight because the game is drastically different now in comparison to what it was then).

However, battle rappers don't have that problem. Battle rappers and rappers in general have the ability to evolve with the culture changes. Whether they choose to or not is completely up to them. Look at ALL-BORO, for instance. He started on LB well before LBA/LBT ever existed and he's the current LBA Champion. That's an accomplishment taken away from him that he earned all because of the rest of the people from his era aren't active anymore when they choose not to be. Is that fair to BORO? Absolutely not. What makes the old heads anymore special to where LBA/LBT can't be counted against them when one of their own from that era won it and is dominating with it as we speak?

Idk, I'm just not in to the whole handicapping thing with LBA/LBT, as it's been an important aspect of the site since it was first revived by RULE (s/o to @RULE for that, btw).

What's everyone else's thoughts on it?

For me, its not so much about the LBA/LBT as it is about total number of tournaments/ways of earning points available to the battlers and how much of that they win. I get what you're saying in that there's nothing stopping the old heads from coming back and that if they did, the LBT/LBA and all the new tournaments would be just as available to them as it is to those currently active. What I'm saying is if someone only had 4 tournaments available to them during the calendar year and they win two of them, that's 50 percent, whereas someone who has 10 tournaments available and wins two is at 20 percent. Both racked two tournament wins each, but I would consider the one who won 50 percent to be more successful whereas with this list, they're counted equally and its not weighted.