Originally Posted by babylon

The entire aspect of "personals" is skewed due to the online nature of letsbeef. In person battling almost necessitates the use of personals when there is history between two opponents. On here, though? The large extent of "personals" lies in, 99% of the time, garbage & old nameplay.

The "personal" angle that I love taking is the swift but impactful breakdown of the entire way that your opponent approaches rap. Me & rant did this to each other in our GC battle, and I think that was a perfect example of how online personals should go. Me & rant know shit about each other im sure we wouldnt want the other writing about, and we just didn't. Nothing was spoken, we just know not to be fucking faggots.

This leads me to the fine line with online personals, because I'll also think differently about the line itself if I know that you went through some shady shit to retrieve the personal at hand. Like, im not going to cheer you on for facebook stalking a strangers family for days to try & find an angle to use against him in an online rap battle.

Also the line is going to move depending on the person. For example with me personally I wouldn't be mad if someone found my profiles, found out personal info and used it in a rap battle against me (provided links weren't given preferably). So long as "no harm is done" i.e. they don't contact anyone they come across or harass me, or anyone I know in the process.

However for @Celsius it seems that he didn't want anyone to search out any of his social media profiles. Which is absolutely his prerogative and I can totally understand that. But it does pose a difficult question for enforcing any kind of rule.

To me it seems there are two options. Self-policing; simply ask your opponent if they're OK with something being mentioned in a battle. Or, Option 2 making a strict rule that opposes digging up personal information. I would personally prefer option 1 as option 2 is too binary and could take the fun out of the site for battlers that particularly like to use personals.

Originally Posted by babylon

The entire aspect of "personals" is skewed due to the online nature of letsbeef. In person battling almost necessitates the use of personals when there is history between two opponents. On here, though? The large extent of "personals" lies in, 99% of the time, garbage & old nameplay.

The "personal" angle that I love taking is the swift but impactful breakdown of the entire way that your opponent approaches rap. Me & rant did this to each other in our GC battle, and I think that was a perfect example of how online personals should go. Me & rant know shit about each other im sure we wouldnt want the other writing about, and we just didn't. Nothing was spoken, we just know not to be fucking faggots.

This leads me to the fine line with online personals, because I'll also think differently about the line itself if I know that you went through some shady shit to retrieve the personal at hand. Like, im not going to cheer you on for facebook stalking a strangers family for days to try & find an angle to use against him in an online rap battle.

Also the line is going to move depending on the person. For example with me personally I wouldn't be mad if someone found my profiles, found out personal info and used it in a rap battle against me (provided links weren't given preferably). So long as "no harm is done" i.e. they don't contact anyone they come across or harass me, or anyone I know in the process.

However for @Celsius it seems that he didn't want anyone to search out any of his social media profiles. Which is absolutely his prerogative and I can totally understand that. But it does pose a difficult question for enforcing any kind of rule.

To me it seems there are two options. Self-policing; simply ask your opponent if they're OK with something being mentioned in a battle. Or, Option 2 making a strict rule that opposes digging up personal information. I would personally prefer option 1 as option 2 is too binary and could take the fun out of the site for battlers that particularly like to use personals.