Originally Posted by Jason

if your startin ga prayer with "if you are real" then you shouldn't even be praying because your doubting God. It says "never doubt the Lord your God" so if you have any 'doubts' then why are you praying?

Christians do not think the Bible is a metaphor, they take it very literal like all the stories in the bible actually happened.

and yes .. i can gaurentee you that its a 100% coincidence.. that actually leads me into my personal favourite line i hear from people who beleive in God..

"Wow your so lucky, you should really thank God that something like this happened to you"
.. then a week later something really SHITTY happens to you.. and they say..."God will help you get through it"

haha, so .. all the CREDIT goes to God for "giving" you something great.. but when your life turns to shit its not God's fault.. he's just gunna help you get through it like a nice friend

bullshieeeeeeet.

Your saying all the same stuff Ive always said. People work hard to get places, and then thank god at the end of it, without actually taking a minute and respecting their own achievments and taking the credit for themselves. I don't know if he is real, I highly doubt that he is, but if he is, I obviously want him on my side. And I dont mean that like half of the people mean it. "I believe in god, i get to go to heaven...yay!". I dont particularly believe in the bible, although that holds everything we know about god. I find some of the stories to be too farfetched, and too many contradictions throughout. I don't know wether I'm a christian or a muslim, (well, def not a muslim but you get the point). I started by speaking to my mom after she died, just as a comfort. Like in the scene in Waist Deep at the end when the kid cleans the house just incase his dad comes back, even though he knows he wont come back (yet does....:S). I know I wont get an aswer, but it would be nice to think that its heard. Then I thought, If im going to do that, I may aswell attempt to give myself protection around the shit I was doing by praying to god, no hardcore praying, just certain nights when im thinking. For the first time in a long time, things seem to be looking good with no problems, so it got me to think more...

I'm basically agnostic in every sense of the word now, a big step from 100% athiest.

Originally Posted by Jason

if your startin ga prayer with "if you are real" then you shouldn't even be praying because your doubting God. It says "never doubt the Lord your God" so if you have any 'doubts' then why are you praying?

Christians do not think the Bible is a metaphor, they take it very literal like all the stories in the bible actually happened.

and yes .. i can gaurentee you that its a 100% coincidence.. that actually leads me into my personal favourite line i hear from people who beleive in God..

"Wow your so lucky, you should really thank God that something like this happened to you"
.. then a week later something really SHITTY happens to you.. and they say..."God will help you get through it"

haha, so .. all the CREDIT goes to God for "giving" you something great.. but when your life turns to shit its not God's fault.. he's just gunna help you get through it like a nice friend

bullshieeeeeeet.

Your saying all the same stuff Ive always said. People work hard to get places, and then thank god at the end of it, without actually taking a minute and respecting their own achievments and taking the credit for themselves. I don't know if he is real, I highly doubt that he is, but if he is, I obviously want him on my side. And I dont mean that like half of the people mean it. "I believe in god, i get to go to heaven...yay!". I dont particularly believe in the bible, although that holds everything we know about god. I find some of the stories to be too farfetched, and too many contradictions throughout. I don't know wether I'm a christian or a muslim, (well, def not a muslim but you get the point). I started by speaking to my mom after she died, just as a comfort. Like in the scene in Waist Deep at the end when the kid cleans the house just incase his dad comes back, even though he knows he wont come back (yet does....:S). I know I wont get an aswer, but it would be nice to think that its heard. Then I thought, If im going to do that, I may aswell attempt to give myself protection around the shit I was doing by praying to god, no hardcore praying, just certain nights when im thinking. For the first time in a long time, things seem to be looking good with no problems, so it got me to think more...

I'm basically agnostic in every sense of the word now, a big step from 100% athiest.