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Originally Posted by EtH
So you're telling me if you don't get a joke at a comedy club it's just as funny when you google it on the ride home? There's immediate impact. Make me know what you're talking about in your bars. Obscurity is a trade off. One of my favourite disses in Dont Flop was "You look like that little gnome in Golden Axe that I have to kick to get my potion back". That's obscure as fuck. Fidel sure as fuck doesn't get a Golden Axe reference. But its funny to me as I get what its from.
Its a trade-off. You use bars you deliberately know a portion of the audience wont get, you cant be annoyed when they tell you they don't get it.
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Yes, I agree. Of course I’m gonna react to a bar better reading it and I get off the rip versus having to fact check it or whatever. The point I’m trying to make is just that as far as shitting on someone for their references, I think the appropriate approach is more to try and look at it like was that reference actually obscure, or do I just not personally know anything about that shit. For instance, I spoke with Shodan one time and he didn’t know who The Rock was. Would it be fair for him to then call a reference to The Rock obscure? That’s all I kinda mean. Just some more sensibility to it versus just blanket booing anything you’ve never heard of.
To your point and Esso’s point, I agree, there’s definitely a lot of different ages, nationalities, backgrounds, etc on LB so you have to make trade offs at certain points, of course. You can say know your audience but the audience on LB is so random and varied that it’s almost impossible to have something everyone’s gonna know (besides very obvious stuff). I’ve written a handful of bars in the past that I know maybe 2 people will get, I just did them because I thought they were hilarious or I just wanted to do them. I’d never be mad because MC KG (where he at anyway) didn’t get my Beast Wars punch, because I wouldn’t expect him to. And I don’t think anyone should take issues with anything like that. I just think there’s stuff that’s reasonable to expect people to be aware of (The Rock as per above for example) and shitting on those is kinda weak.
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Originally Posted by FiNAL WoRD
if I'm being 100 100.. If I don't get the bar I can usually make sense of it (like RULE said) but it deff takes away the impact for me as I shouldn't really have to google something to get it
pat stay said it best "See you think your rhymes go over people's heads that that makes you so smart and technical..No that makes you dumb for not being able to make the shit more accessible"
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Haha for sure. That quote pretty much sums up every Lizman verse ever (though I don’t think Lizman even knows what he’s talking about either)