[Babylon]

Originally Posted by DJ Denton

Hue hue Hue. Religion is the downfall of mankind. The irony of religion is if it did not exist we would more likely have world peace. World peace will never happen however because theres a bunch of ignorant fucks who think some invisible deity(s) is controlling every single cause and effect outcome on this fucking planet.

For the most part I am in agreeance, but you do also need to take into account the billions of dollars being used by religious organizations in the name of these deity(s) to better mankind and help our fellow man. Whilst I am in full agreeance that without religion, our world would be a better place, it does do good in our world now. In every culture, group, organization, and just any collective of people in general you will find good and bad things being done.

Originally Posted by Dean

It works?

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My pastor gave me a "DEBUNKING EVOLUTION" pamphlet. I'll post it in here. This should be interesting. I think its kind of funny I use this pamphlet as my bookmark for the Demon Haunted World, a book that advocates evolution. But...

Without further adieu..

Evolution Is Not Happening Now

First of all, the lack of a case for evolution is clear from the fact that no one has ever seen it happen. If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring, and there should be many "transitional" forms that we could observe. What we see instead, of course, is an array of distinct "kinds" of plants and animals with many varieties within each kind, but with very clear and -- apparently -- unbridgeable gaps between the kinds. That is, for example, there are many varieties of dogs and many varieties of cats, but no "dats" or "cogs." Such variation is often called microevolution, and these minor horizontal (or downward) changes occur fairly often, but such changes are not true "vertical" evolution.

Evolutionary geneticists have often experimented on fruit flies and other rapidly reproducing species to induce mutational changes hoping they would lead to new and better species, but these have all failed to accomplish their goal. No truly new species has ever been produced, let alone a new "basic kind."

So... evolution lacks a case because no one has seen it happen, but a cosmic jewish zombie being born from a virgin who created mankind out of a rib and some dirt is fully applicable? Seems legit.

This is almost copied and pasted from a large group of conservative arguments across the web, and it would be a waste of time for me to conjure a counter-argument for it because you can just find Richard Dawkins or any number of people's argument-crushing views on it online. I will copy/paste one of those, if need be, though.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by DJ Denton

Hue hue Hue. Religion is the downfall of mankind. The irony of religion is if it did not exist we would more likely have world peace. World peace will never happen however because theres a bunch of ignorant fucks who think some invisible deity(s) is controlling every single cause and effect outcome on this fucking planet.

For the most part I am in agreeance, but you do also need to take into account the billions of dollars being used by religious organizations in the name of these deity(s) to better mankind and help our fellow man. Whilst I am in full agreeance that without religion, our world would be a better place, it does do good in our world now. In every culture, group, organization, and just any collective of people in general you will find good and bad things being done.

Originally Posted by Dean

It works?

---------- Post added at 11:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

My pastor gave me a "DEBUNKING EVOLUTION" pamphlet. I'll post it in here. This should be interesting. I think its kind of funny I use this pamphlet as my bookmark for the Demon Haunted World, a book that advocates evolution. But...

Without further adieu..

Evolution Is Not Happening Now

First of all, the lack of a case for evolution is clear from the fact that no one has ever seen it happen. If it were a real process, evolution should still be occurring, and there should be many "transitional" forms that we could observe. What we see instead, of course, is an array of distinct "kinds" of plants and animals with many varieties within each kind, but with very clear and -- apparently -- unbridgeable gaps between the kinds. That is, for example, there are many varieties of dogs and many varieties of cats, but no "dats" or "cogs." Such variation is often called microevolution, and these minor horizontal (or downward) changes occur fairly often, but such changes are not true "vertical" evolution.

Evolutionary geneticists have often experimented on fruit flies and other rapidly reproducing species to induce mutational changes hoping they would lead to new and better species, but these have all failed to accomplish their goal. No truly new species has ever been produced, let alone a new "basic kind."

So... evolution lacks a case because no one has seen it happen, but a cosmic jewish zombie being born from a virgin who created mankind out of a rib and some dirt is fully applicable? Seems legit.

This is almost copied and pasted from a large group of conservative arguments across the web, and it would be a waste of time for me to conjure a counter-argument for it because you can just find Richard Dawkins or any number of people's argument-crushing views on it online. I will copy/paste one of those, if need be, though.