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This emotion was "fake" though. Thats what im getting at. When they cry and feel real pain. Then we'll talk.

Exactly! And who says they won't?

Reference the chess thing. Its basically a mahematical game. Of course a computer will be better there's a finite number of moves you can do. Considering a processor can process millions of things in a blink of the eye it makes sense that AI will be better.

There's also only a "finite number" of actions you can accomplish at any given moment. It just so happens that that number is much larger. Fortunately, humans come equipped with a "pruner" of sorts that lets us rule out clearly bad choices. I see no reason a computer could not get one of these.

Football though....different story...try predicting what a footballer will do on a pitch....almost impossible.Even it knew every variable or possible action the player might do on pitch at any given time, it could be outsmarted by something stupid.

No doubt about that. A human can be too.

Lastly no one knows the capabilities of the human brain. We use so little of it and dont know how to use most of its capabilities anyway. I've heard of hypnotherapists that could get you to read the books on the shelves to them of a library you visited 10 years ago. The problem isn't our brains the problem is access.

This means absolutely nothing. The human brain's capabilities could be almost any arbitrary amount, doesn't mean an AI couldn't surpass it at some point.
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This emotion was "fake" though. Thats what im getting at. When they cry and feel real pain. Then we'll talk.

Exactly! And who says they won't?

Reference the chess thing. Its basically a mahematical game. Of course a computer will be better there's a finite number of moves you can do. Considering a processor can process millions of things in a blink of the eye it makes sense that AI will be better.

There's also only a "finite number" of actions you can accomplish at any given moment. It just so happens that that number is much larger. Fortunately, humans come equipped with a "pruner" of sorts that lets us rule out clearly bad choices. I see no reason a computer could not get one of these.

Football though....different story...try predicting what a footballer will do on a pitch....almost impossible.Even it knew every variable or possible action the player might do on pitch at any given time, it could be outsmarted by something stupid.

No doubt about that. A human can be too.

Lastly no one knows the capabilities of the human brain. We use so little of it and dont know how to use most of its capabilities anyway. I've heard of hypnotherapists that could get you to read the books on the shelves to them of a library you visited 10 years ago. The problem isn't our brains the problem is access.

This means absolutely nothing. The human brain's capabilities could be almost any arbitrary amount, doesn't mean an AI couldn't surpass it at some point.
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