Lupe Fiasco vs Lil Wayne

[Lelouch]

I don't want money, sales, etc. to come into this. I want your judgements based on lyrical ability and flow.

I say Lupe because he is very lyrical. I listened to Lil Wayne's "Da Drought 3" and a few others and I still say Lupe is better. Jay-Z gave Lupe a cosign and even called him a genius writer. Rakim complemented Lupe and Nas complemented him. Also Lupe switches themes smoothly and uses Entendres, Metaphors, etc. Lil Wayne has good metaphors and in a blue moon he says a real sick one, but he doesn't have themes sometimes and switches quickly. What do you think? It might seem that I am slightly biased but I used to be a hardcore Lil Wayne fan.

[Cm Pain]

Lupe fiasco would probably take this one, lil wayne does have decent metaphors but thats probably about it, Lupe has got a much bigger arsenal at his disposable,plus lupe sounds better and has a better flow

[Cm Pain]

disposal*********

[exZACHly]

Lyrically?? Lupe hands down...Wayne can't fuck with Fiasco if you think not you're truly deaf

[Lelouch]

I agree. Tbh I don't know why people say Lil Wayne is the "Best Rapper Alive". People can come up with a big list rappers better than Wayne.

[MAN DOWN]

Lil Wayne is actually the smartest rapper publicity wise...he knows how to reach a crowd way more than Lupe Fiasco..if I had to choose who to be, I'd pick Lil Wayne...I honestly think if Lil Wayne wanted to write some more complex shit he could..but he wants to appeal to the crowd...that's where the cash is at.

[STRONTIUM]

I agree with Mr SPLAT, but John Cena is the greatest rapper of all time, he has more fans coming to see him than Lil Wayne so it must be true.

[John Dos]

wow...you sir, are a jackass^^^

and I'm from the Chi and I still say Wayne...

[Lelouch]

Name a Lil Wayne song that competes with Failure, Dumb it Down, Lupe The Killer, Mean and Vicious, and Lupe's Say Something freestyle lyrically.

[John Dos]

if you're a Lupe fan, that's you...

I'm not hatin' on Lupe, but his style is unorthadox, and sometimes it almost sounds off beat...

it doesn't reach as many people...

and that's fact homey

[Kal Bal]

WAYNE FUCKERS lol seriously i think im the only lyricist in the world that doesnt like wayne..........i guess its the "sell out" mentality u have............how many plat tracks or albums does wayne have? how many mixtapes? how many albums total? how many people r bumbin his shit right now in the whole worlde? ALOT..........more than ANY rapper/mc/lyricist/budist/canablist..................let alone this guy.............idc what guy come along for a short spotlight but still does this thing underground its not cause hes doing underground type tracks its cause nobody can stay stuck to him like wayne.............so when they do it for fuck man what 11 years? by now and hes only like 26(check that) but i know he was 16 when 400 degreez came out hes done it longer than anybody next to snopp and dre but dre dont even write his own shit and snoop is straight basic cum dumb bum sun rap type shit........and if u say wayne does that too ya but not less than 20 percent of the time he still spits poetry and no ones notices cause ur on the sell out wagon WAYNE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE (tied with eminem two diff styles) and he always will be a legend by doin more hot shit than ANYONE EVER has made and hes not even 30 not close to done............im listenin to wayne right now just thought i'd let ya haters know lol and btw he'd destroy anyone on this site in a battle idc what u say that one thats a fact he can bring the heat WAKE UP and take ur hater caps off and listen again...........poetry...........ahhhhhh

[Lelouch]

Uh..I'm kinda confused here. Is this guy trolling me or what? I have a sell out mentality?

[Kal Bal]

nah just a lot of ppl do.......this isnt the first discussion of lil wayne........i meant theres ppl that just hate "mainstream" because of the sole fact their "supposed" to stay underground its ridiculus dumbest written rule ive ever seen everyone does it to get famous if u dont thats cool but what makes that choice better than the other

LMAO ok now i see y ur confused i said i didnt like wayne right at the start..........i meant the complete oposite haha............ur gonna get the wayne haters in here tomorrow jjust wait............lupe's coo man.....but wayne is by far the most succesful rapper like it or not he has been more successful than pac.......in my opinion i dont think pac would be that famous if he was still alive cause right before he died he said he was sick of the rap game and was retired to become an actor......i mean he'd still be famouse like snoop and them are but thats it.............lil waynes a beast and i hate ppl that say hes not lyrical he throws sick metis and punches and nowadays is more of a poet than a lyricist ppl just dont see it cause of the hater caps............listen to his original shit its sick.............legend

[Lelouch]

Well all rappers are poets, but I just think Lupe uses more literary devices like entendres, metaphors(of course), extended metaphors, etc. Lupe is like a classic poet to me. He is like the poets that wrote the poems that you read in HS and College and you had to decipher them because they are written so you have to think hard about the meaning sort of. His lyrics are like concentrated and they fly over peoples heads. Wayne is a poet, but like a new controversial poet. He still has metaphors, entendres and stuff like that but its not as concentrated as Lupe's. Really anybody can like Wayne because he doesn't try to mind fuck people like Lupe does. I'm not hating on Wayne. Even though I don't voluntarily listen to him I give him his props whenever I hear one of his songs. Lupe has the lyrics, delivery and has rapped about lots of subjects and from different points of view. Lil Wayne has stays on the same subjects most of the time, but his punch lines and metaphors hit you in the face and he creates raps that will sell. I think Lupe is slightly better than Wayne, but they have strengths in different areas. I don't even think "Gangsta Lupe" would be as popular to the mainstream as Lil Wayne. His raps are too concentrated. Btw I don't have that much hate for the mainstream its just that

[Kal Bal]

well every rapper starts off great........i know hes not neccesarily a rookie but hes still young............... he also kinda reminds me of cassidy for some reason like hes there but hes not if that makes sense.........i mean if keeps it up who knows could be one of the greats too cause hes not strickly underground like a joe budden............so hes still got a chance to stick out but if he sticks it out and gets ppl stuck to him like wayne does the props to him i mean ur always doin somethin right if ur around to the public for a couple years

[exZACHly]

I'm not hating on Wayne either...I give him props dude has put in mad work and made a name for himself(obv lol)...But the question was who's better lyrically? and Lupe is on a different level IMO

[Kal Bal]

lol man this is for the future haters

[CasinoeBeatz]

im thinkin weezy

[Laurgon DeStroya]

I don't think comparing artists ever benefits anyone. On one side, one dude will be stuck to Wayne's dick, and on the other to Lupe's, and trying to get a decent opinion is laughable, because they'll disagree with every point you're trying to make just for the hell of it. I think as long as you're original, you can be happy, however in today's industry the market is very specific, so depending on what you choose to rap about you can either make it big and be appealing to any record label and make your money, (Nothing wrong with that, these "rappers" write anything without a second thought for a buck, that's their thing..) or you can be a real artist and try to be creative enough to elevate yourself and find success some other way. Wayne doesn't appeal to me, based on the fact that none of the shit he raps about means anything to me, or is anything i can relate to in the least. I enjoy listening to Lupe's music a hell of a lot more, because my brain is actually active. If I feel completely out of my zone I'll listen to a lil Wayne track, and then realize I want to cut the lyrics right out and steal the beat..

Everybody to their own.

end rant

[MzRaiynbow]

Lyrically= Lupe. Flow wise= It'll be a tie. but Wayne ain't all dat ney way. for one he'll sang other people songs and try to put his own blend to it. which is not tight at all. Lupe is way above that. his flow is neat, steady, tight, nd you can understand what hes saying. you can't understand what Wayne be saying half of the time. SMH

[FlawlessThaKushGod]

wayne shouldnt be compared to anybody cuz is garbage


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[CSKiLLz]

R u GuYs Stupid Lol Lupe Fiasco AGainst Lill Wayne LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! there both shitty as fuck but goddamn lil wayne would body Lupe anyday of the week LMFAO'11!!!!! EZZZZZZZZZ What the fuck r u smokin ??? hhahahaha

[Catharsis]

Lupe Fiasco is actually a lyricist..... lil wayne is well....... a syrup head.

[JIMMY CONWAY]

Lupe all day

[Lelouch]

R u GuYs Stupid Lol Lupe Fiasco AGainst Lill Wayne LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! there both shitty as fuck but goddamn lil wayne would body Lupe anyday of the week LMFAO'11!!!!! EZZZZZZZZZ What the fuck r u smokin ??? hhahahaha

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First explain how Lupe Fiasco is shitty, and explain how Lil Wayne would body Lupe. That is, if you aren't a troll....

[Brodie B]

What the fuck r u smokin ??? hhahahaha

Obviously shit that doesn't make us trip as hard as you are. Pass it along dude

[Swinny]

First off imma start this by saying, everyone hates wayne becaus hes on top. He is atcually a decent emcee if you can over look the mass hate he gets, and make up your own mind instead of sticking with the popular opinion.

Now that i got that out the way, im going to have to say lupe smashes wayne. If you prefur random punchlines and wordplay all over the place, wayne wins, hes very good at that. But when it comes to real concepts(streets on fire, letting go, daydreaming) Lupe rips wayne a new one!

As I Said earlier waynes punches are decent, but they are random as hell, overall wayne is pretty random(lol) lupe can write lines that all connect to the concept of the song, witch i appreciate more than the random lines of wayne! no hate peeps just my opinion.

Foundation

[-CeQuenCe-]

lupe USED to be a beast but when he got famous he aint all that i guess we got to see whts coming next before you judge but if your judging on all the songs instead of now LUPE wins

[JC Blade]

Lil Wayne is dope lyrically...but Lupe is up there too...I think Wayne is getting lazy now with some of his tracks, just choosing bad beats and ish because he knows people are more likely to listen to his words. Wayne a few years ago was fucking amazing, now he's just amazing...Lupe lyrically is really, really talented, but I don't think he could knock out hit songs consistently. You'd need to stick his Cd into rotation with some bangers in my opinion...but he's still dope.

JC Blade
http://www.jcbladebeats.com

[Ace Noise Beats]

Wayne is dope, but Lupe got this one.

[dluxprod]

Lupe!

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[BTD]

lol@everyone who chose wayne....lupe easily

[Strangleder]

I'd have to go with Lupe due to his unorthodox style IMO that is a key that makes him "different" if you will. Not to take away from Wayne but I also reflect with Lupe's music better, and I didnt really like Wayne until he dropped the Carter 1. Ive never had to Google a word listening to Wayne's music. Nor heard a MC publically hated on due to being smart. He inspired me to never expo for lames.

Dum muthafukkaz :violent:

But im a MC who enjoys lyrical intellect rather than grimy everyday struggles.

[Evolution]

Think about this quote. "95 percent of people are always wrong".
Maybe THAT'S why when a rapper hits mainstreme, lil wayne, em, etc, people automatically assume and say they're wack. If I was like.. 'I LOVE EMINEM'.. people would be like, 'you fucking stan!'. Lol, it's ridiculous.
I have to admit, probably MOST artists that WAS underground, then went mainstream, was 10 times better before they hit the big time. Idk, it's funny how that shit works out. That's why a lot of people on here probably automatically hate lil wayne, cause he made it big and shit, but he's not THAT bad..

There's 2 ways to look at it really. 1.) If you made it big time, have way more fans, make way more money, people quote you more, then you MUST be better.
2.) If you think, 95 percent of people are usually wrong, and MORE people like wayne, (aka the mainstream artists) then Lupe is probably better.

I DO feel like lil wayne has more lyrical capability, but dumbs it down and raps what the PEOPLE want to hear. PEOPLE = MONEY.
^^ That sort of shit makes me mad though, Lupe I feel like raps for RAP. At the end of the day I think Lupe is a better lyricist. I can't judge by 'but i think lil wayne has the potential to'.. cause I DON'T KNOW. On a more consistent basis, LUPE is a better lyricist. I don't judge by, 'he hit mainstream so he must be wack' like a lot of this LB kats say, I just listen to the lyrics and judge.

TBH, I only listen to both of these rappers occasionally. But from what I've heard, (ive heard a little more of lil wayne probably, just cause hes been out longer).. LUPE is the better lyricist, hands down, idk why that's even an argument....

Interesting topic though! Never had these rappers compared before! Good thread!

[Ticket]

Lupe on every single level of everything except record sales. Seriously people. Lets be real.

[GOD-OF-DISSING]

One of my fav tracks by weezy is diamonds
he killed dat verse
and my favorite track by lupe is little weapon and put you on game

but lupe wins this lil wayne is sick lyrically 2 tho

[JIMMY CONWAY]

Wayne is dope.
Lupe is Bananas.
Can't to many mess in with Lupe though.

[TalkSick]

I hope wayne gets hit by a city bus then spit and pissed on by aids infected homeless heroin junkie.........then pissed on one more time for good measure........just sayin

[SIXX-SHOTT]

wayne doesnt dumb down his music..it just sounds like he does cuz all the drugs he takes..put it like this in 10 years most people wont be listening to old wayne music..itll take most people 10 years just to grasp what lupe is hollering..lupe hands down ez..substance over record sales any day

[Eye G]

Lil Wayne is actually the smartest rapper publicity wise...he knows how to reach a crowd way more than Lupe Fiasco..if I had to choose who to be, I'd pick Lil Wayne...I honestly think if Lil Wayne wanted to write some more complex shit he could..but he wants to appeal to the crowd...that's where the cash is at.

Co-sign ...splat

[iFamine]

Wayne is garbage. Lyric bitten ass mofucka

[Rondo Valentino]

Only thing Dwayne Carter has is metaphors & he falling off on that. Votes goes to Lupe on this one. Only idiots would say " Wayne has more money & sells albums ". Doesn't matter, that don't change the fact of talent & skills when it comes to being lyrical.

[MixtapeToon]

i think lupe consistency is better wit his lyrics but i like waynes songs better as overall songs... not usually his radio songs tho

[~Murda Matt~]

i think lupe consistency is better wit his lyrics but i like waynes songs better as overall songs... not usually his radio songs tho

i agree with this pretty much..lupe is dope with wordplay and rhyme scheme..but wayne makes the better songs that everybody wants to hear i guess

[NfiNiTy]

You just can't compare them and select a winner to me. Two VERY different rappers Lupe is a conscious rapper, and Wayne is just a rapper. In terms of ability though, Lupe hands down. Wayne has made plentiful amounts of garbage consistently throughout his career there may be some gems in the litter of his music but not many. Whereas just about every one of Lupes songs is pretty good.

[NfiNiTy]

WAYNE FUCKERS lol seriously i think im the only lyricist in the world that doesnt like wayne..........i guess its the "sell out" mentality u have............how many plat tracks or albums does wayne have? how many mixtapes? how many albums total? how many people r bumbin his shit right now in the whole worlde? ALOT..........more than ANY rapper/mc/lyricist/budist/canablist..................let alone this guy.............idc what guy come along for a short spotlight but still does this thing underground its not cause hes doing underground type tracks its cause nobody can stay stuck to him like wayne.............so when they do it for fuck man what 11 years? by now and hes only like 26(check that) but i know he was 16 when 400 degreez came out hes done it longer than anybody next to snopp and dre but dre dont even write his own shit and snoop is straight basic cum dumb bum sun rap type shit........and if u say wayne does that too ya but not less than 20 percent of the time he still spits poetry and no ones notices cause ur on the sell out wagon WAYNE IS THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE (tied with eminem two diff styles) and he always will be a legend by doin more hot shit than ANYONE EVER has made and hes not even 30 not close to done............im listenin to wayne right now just thought i'd let ya haters know lol and btw he'd destroy anyone on this site in a battle idc what u say that one thats a fact he can bring the heat WAKE UP and take ur hater caps off and listen again...........poetry...........ahhhhhh

So what if he's done it longer, there are rappers on they come up that spit more raw and have more talent then he has EVER possessed. That make songs that blow his "hot shit" out of the water it's types like him that degrade artists and make it hard for quality mofuckas to get in the industry. Hes weak plain and simple just my 2cents to your paragraph. Hella hate for the fakes in the game just saying.

[Erupt da Monsta]

We talkin about a battle? Id say wayne, as far as songs... wayne, as far as substance .. Lupe,

Wasnt feelin Lupe last album.. but I fucks wit lup more than wayne..

Lupes 2 x more lyrical.

[Julius915]

Lupe more lyrical Wayne gets it in his own different way (Consistent with mixtapes, makes more songs) no matter how many dislike or like him.


Respect for both of em but
my vote go to Lupe