Concepts That Should Never Be Used Again

[Shodan]

This is a non-exhaustive list of concepts that have been used so many times by so many different people that nobody should ever use them again, unless they think of a spin on it that's so clever that it makes up for how bad the basic concept is, which you won't. I'm not going to bother with references to specific battles where they were used. Just read and learn.

The list will be updated as suggestions come in.

Defeat / Da Feet - This one is so pathetically bad and overused that it's more often used ironically than seriously at this point.

Bars / Prison - Prison cells have bars on them. We know this. While I'm at it, I should mention bars / phone charge and bars / establishments that serve alcohol in the same category. They're not QUITE as overused but pretty close. And, for the love of God, do not ever say anything about "the bar exam."

Lines / lines of coke - See above.

Bar buryin' / Barbarian - A good example of a wordplay that's not really trivial, but obvious enough that a bunch of different people have thought of it.

Sho / Show versus me and Lock(hart) / Lock (as in a door) vs Lockhart - Must be the 2 most used/abused/overused nameplays ever.

Fair In Height / Fahrenheit vs Celsius - The Sho / Show and Lock / Lock ones are super obvious, but it escapes me how so many people have apparently thought of this exact same wordplay by themselves. I bet they all thought they were geniuses when they came up with it, too. Don't let yourself be the next one.

Calling a round object a ROUND - Not just overused (to a ridiculous extent at that) but nonsensical. Even worse than defeat / da feet in that regard. NOTE: This doesn't apply to food items or coins made of precious metal due to little-known grammatical technicalities.

Anything about "da hood" which ties into KKK outfits, the hood of a car, or hooded parkas/jackets/sweaters/etc. - Anyone who does this deserves to be sent to Guantanamo Bay and subjected to hooding (look it up if you don't know what that is).

Sole or Soul nameplays against Seul - Don't. Just don't. You're not clever or original. This is in about the same category as Sho(dan)/Show or Lock(hart)/Lock. Shout outs to KG The Prince for reminding me of this.

Disguise / Da Skies - Not much I can say about this one, other than it's played and terrible. Big ups to Denton for mentioning this one.

[Dexter]

Good idea. You should keep this updated. Bang!

[Phracture]

I support this thread

[Kiwi Peewee]

I’d like to pre-emptively nominate Hoffa/HOFer for this list. I don’t think it’s played yet but it is bad.

[KG The Prince]

Shodan any shitty bar about drugs should be up there, unless it's fresh like you said

Maybe Kevin Garnett nameplays too

And Seul/Soul/Sole nameplays

[The Saaxxx Baba]

good thread!! compile a few more played out concepts and imagery angles as well man.

[Brayne Ded]

I literally can't write a verse now. This was my go-to material.

ROUNDS are the future.

[GOOD GRIEF]

Shodan KG The Prince Y’all can’t just outlaw name play just cause your salty about getting the same nameflips over and over. Trust me I get it... but if anything you should be mad at voters for thinking it’s dope when it’s obviously been used exactly the same before.

Sometimes it’s actually fresh and used in new ways. I mean, Do you REALLY think every single punchline you’ve ever made hasn’t been done in at least a different variation?

By all means clown bad/played nameflips but getting rid of them as a whole isn’t ideal.

[KG The Prince]

Shodan KG The Prince Y’all can’t just outlaw name play just cause your salty about getting the same nameflips over and over. Trust me I get it... but if anything you should be mad at voters for thinking it’s dope when obviously been used before.

Sometimes it’s actually fresh and used in new ways. Do you REALLY think every punchline you’ve ever made hasn’t been done in at least a different variation?

We both specified that it shouldn't be used UNLESS the way it's flipped it's new/fresh

[GOOD GRIEF]

We both specified that it shouldn't be used UNLESS the way it's flipped it's new/fresh

Nah. It more so felt like you were saying don’t use it if it’s been used that way before.

Saying Don’t use Seul/Soul or Kevin Gar Bars since the wp of Seul/Soul isn’t fresh in itself don’t use it.

If I use a Soul/Seul bar and it’s dope and done fresh then sucks for you tbh. Or like if I use a KG bar talking about an incident Kevin was in outside of basketball or something then maybe that’s never been done before. But if it sucks well then I should be shitted on twice as hard accordingly.

It’s like the argument against gun bars. (Which in itself is just plain preference)

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But of course since Soul/Seul is used so much it’s EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to dig for something fresh out of it. But as battlers it’s our responsibility to either dig till we find it or move to another concept.

But you can’t just say “you can’t do that against me” right off the bat.

[Kiwi Peewee]

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

[Punk]

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

[Locchart]

Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

"Punk wouldn't make a comeback if you'd revived The Ramones!"


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[Punk]

Lmao bruh

[Denton]

Disguise / Da Skies

[GOOD GRIEF]

I was gonna use a "Sho w/ titles" = "closed-captioned movies" punch against Shodan but the nameplay was too played. I haven't seen that particular slant on the Show/Sho idea used before, but I do still think it would've been played

I see a lot of new guys with 3 word setups. Like tell them to expand they’re ideas but I feel they have no clue what I mean. Bars that simple are cool as jabs but you gotta add more to it ya know? You know what I mean but maybe I should make a punchline tip post.

[KG The Prince]

Nah. It more so felt like you were saying don’t use it if it’s been used that way before.

Saying Don’t use Seul/Soul or Kevin Gar Bars since the wp of Seul/Soul isn’t fresh in itself don’t use it.

If I use a Soul/Seul bar and it’s dope and done fresh then sucks for you tbh. Or like if I use a KG bar talking about an incident Kevin was in outside of basketball or something then maybe that’s never been done before. But if it sucks well then I should be shitted on twice as hard accordingly.

It’s like the argument against gun bars. (Which in itself is just plain preference)

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But of course since Soul/Seul is used so much it’s EXTREMELY DIFFICULT to dig for something fresh out of it. But as battlers it’s our responsibility to either dig till we find it or move to another concept.

But you can’t just say “you can’t do that against me” right off the bat.

Lol okay. Calm down. Use 'em if you want to

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Punches that start off with a few words the a question mark. It’s so unoriginal and legit I see everyone doing it.

Or punches that go “He wouldn’t” such and such if he “such and such.

You've always hated that shit :(

[CakedOut]

This is a non-exhaustive list of concepts that have been used so many times by so many different people that nobody should ever use them again, unless they think of a spin on it that's so clever that it makes up for how bad the basic concept is, which you won't. I'm not going to bother with references to specific battles where they were used. Just read and learn.

The list will be updated as suggestions come in.

Defeat / Da Feet - This one is so pathetically bad and overused that it's more often used ironically than seriously at this point.

Bars / Prison - Prison cells have bars on them. We know this. While I'm at it, I should mention bars / phone charge and bars / establishments that serve alcohol in the same category. They're not QUITE as overused but pretty close. And, for the love of God, do not ever say anything about "the bar exam."

Lines / lines of coke - See above.

Bar buryin' / Barbarian - A good example of a wordplay that's not really trivial, but obvious enough that a bunch of different people have thought of it.

Sho / Show versus me and Lock(hart) / Lock (as in a door) vs Lockhart - Must be the 2 most used/abused/overused nameplays ever.

Fair In Height / Fahrenheit vs Celsius - The Sho / Show and Lock / Lock ones are super obvious, but it escapes me how so many people have apparently thought of this exact same wordplay by themselves. I bet they all thought they were geniuses when they came up with it, too. Don't let yourself be the next one.

Calling a round object a ROUND - Not just overused (to a ridiculous extent at that) but nonsensical. Even worse than defeat / da feet in that regard. NOTE: This doesn't apply to food items or coins made of precious metal due to little-known grammatical technicalities.

Anything about "da hood" which ties into KKK outfits, the hood of a car, or hooded parkas/jackets/sweaters/etc. - Anyone who does this deserves to be sent to Guantanamo Bay and subjected to hooding (look it up if you don't know what that is).

This thread is meaningless. You can’t tell a writer what he can and cannot write. It’s no arguing with that. Of course we want everyone to elevate and be creative but its common sense not to use redundant angles unless you can put a fresh spin on it. I’m sure kg gets tired of the Garnett angles. Esso with the drug references. Caked with the flips but it’s common. I’m not about to tell you what you can and cannot do. If you want to rap about a round, cool. That’s your style. If you want to rap about Harry Potter or some science shit, so fucking what. Everyone is different and maybe some guys favor to a concept style more than the others but that’s what makes the site unique. This is equivalent to Organik telling a smack rapper he can’t rap about rounds or w.e nameflips that’s been used already because he’s tired of it.

Yes, we’ve seen concepts that’s been used again and again.
I’m sure I can go to any battle and see a used concept.
It’s not about what you use. It’s how you say it

[Punk]

Cakedout used 80% of these concepts in his last battle.

[CakedOut]

Spoken like a true fan

[Shodan]

Shodan any shitty bar about drugs should be up there, unless it's fresh like you said

Maybe Kevin Garnett nameplays too

And Seul/Soul/Sole nameplays

I actually don't recall seeing any Kevin Garnett nameplays, but I don't know who Kevin Garnett is so my brain probably skipped right over them. And Seul = Sole/Soul nameplays are definitely worthy of being added to the list. Good suggestion.

By all means clown bad/played nameflips but getting rid of them as a whole isn’t ideal.

Clowning on bad/played concepts (including nameflips) is exactly what this thread is far. I don't think I actually have the power to stop everyone from using a concept ever again.

Disguise / Da Skies

Absolutely. I'll add it to the list.

[Barzooka]

You guys take this shit more seriously than I do. I hope it pays off for you all....

[KG The Prince]

You guys take this shit more seriously than I do. I hope it pays off for you all....

Jay diamond quote lool

[Fidel Z]

Round bars are hilarious and can never die

[Barzooka]

Jay diamond quote lool

Whatever Rant was smoking to come up with that ridiculous shit must have been fucking fire I'm telling you bro.

[Locchart]

Round bars are hilarious and can never die

FAX.

[Supsie]

What about sharp bars, like.. so words that use the words "on point" an "sharp" nah mean..

used round bars in my last battle.. Barzooka was Rant, Jay diamond?

[Edgeworth]

Creative ROUNDS Bars are hilarious when used satirically/ironically, and against weaker opponents who can’t really write a sensical line themselves anyway. In a serious battle between mid+ tier battlers, a ROUNDs bar is out of place and can cost you the battle.

[Punk]

Anything cakedout writes

[CakedOut]

Anything cakedout writes

You writing concepts from 2013 g. You can’t fk wit me lmao

[Punk]

You writing concepts from 2013 g. You can’t fk wit me lmao

Battle me?

[Supsie]

Don't even fuck with DeadSec CakedOut you piece of trash! df you thinking.

[Punk]

^Talk that ReTr0 shit Sup!

[Barzooka]

What about sharp bars, like.. so words that use the words "on point" an "sharp" nah mean..

used round bars in my last battle.. Barzooka was Rant, Jay diamond?

Rant = Jay Diamond

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Also, that dude Friendly Emcee with the fucking Spongebob picture was also Rant.

[Supsie]

Rant = Jay Diamond

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Also, that dude Friendly Emcee with the fucking Spongebob picture was also Rant.

Are you 4 real lmao!! ok because i knew no one could be as fucking stupid as that jay diamond dude sounded.. i new he was a troll.. but fuck rant acted that long as a retarded guy... rant was prob sitting at home laughing so hard thinking his fooled every one hahah dude spent his time doing that shit.. bro.

[Barzooka]

Are you 4 real lmao!! ok because i knew no one could be as fucking stupid as that jay diamond dude sounded.. i new he was a troll.. but fuck rant acted that long as a retarded guy... rant was prob sitting at home laughing so hard thinking his fooled every one hahah dude spent his time doing that shit.. bro.

Look I won't lie that shit was actually fucking funny.

[Supsie]

Look I won't lie that shit was actually fucking funny.

It was funny, no doubt, it was also ultra fucking pathetic (staying true to rants ways) which made it even more funny.

[Barzooka]

It was funny, no doubt, it was also ultra fucking pathetic (staying true to rants ways) which made it even more funny.

So apparently Jay isn't Rant...

[Supsie]

So apparently Jay isn't Rant...

Its fucking rant, it was him, no doubt, no one else is that fucking stupid.

[Punk]

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