Esso explain yourself

[Celsius]

Concept Champion stealing concepts?

sus asf.

He commented on my battle and pointed out my Dollar Shave Club bar(my multi account is currently named UnethiCaL because of current beef)

https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_details.php?section=tb&id=492641

this link is him using the dollar shave club concept months later


https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_details.php?section=tb&id=497031



See you in the tourney.

[Babylon]

Never saw your bar, but I heavily fucked with his version when I voted on sawyer vs esso.

I suppose it is fairly weird he voted on that battle AND pointed that bar out specifically, but the usual people here seem to have an incredibly loose sense on what constitutes as biting generally so this case might come off as even more of a reach than usual because its just the concept.

[Aggo]

Meh. Its a concept. It wasn't set up or executed like yours. Shit happens. I did this recently actually. (Self snitch incoming) I used a "put him in a coffin" concept in a bar. A while later I'm reviewing my old audios and someone used the concept against me. The set ups and executions were way off but it dawned on me that subconsciously that resonated with me and I pulled it out months later with no recollection of its origin. That Shits bound to happen.

[Shodan]

It's probably derivative, at least. Perhaps a bite. I would call it a ridiculous reach if not for the aforementioned comment in your battle.

[Rant]

Subconscious, imo.

[Shodan]

Considering these two bars, there are, essentially, four likely scenarios:

1) Esso conceived the idea totally independently, presumably having forgotten Celsius' use of it.
2) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar and never realized it.
3) Esso subconsciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar, but realized it before releasing his own bar. He may or may not have changed his bar between said realization and release.
4) Esso consciously derived the idea from Celsius' bar.

If 1) or 2) is the case, Esso did not bite.

If 3) or 4) is the case, whether or not Esso bit is subjective, although I consider Esso's bar different enough from Celsius' as to not be bitten.

[NOBLE]

It's not a bite. I wouldn't even say it's the same concept. It's the same metaphor (Dollar Shave Club) that's being compared to something, but the idea is different. I can understand why you find it iffy though.

[Esso]

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

[Celsius]

Me: Cutting edge delivery was punch, delivered as a metaphor. everything I send is razor sharp was the setup

vs

'get the blade for next to nothing like Dollar shave club'....simile, simple, no setup or depth

No comparison...only thing the same is 'dollar shave club'. Imagine if one person makes a basketball punch....is nobody allowed to use any basketball related punch ever again?

That wasnt months....it was 2015. worth calling out in the moment, not 2 years worth of memorable.

Whatever motivation you need to beat me in a battle that matters.....good luck.

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...

See you tomorrow. Esso. :monkey:

[Esso]

Umm actually your battle with Sawer was just last month...



your bar, fool...your bar was in 2015.

[Celsius]

your bar, fool...your bar was in 2015.



correct Esso...you can read timestamps...yay.

How does that change anything? :confused:

[Babylon]

correct Esso...you can read timestamps...yay.

How does that change anything? :confused:

he already highlighted why it changed something, then you drew that on for three more posts instead of responding to his points. To me, that was you solidifying that you cannot argue them.

gg though, semi entertaining read

[Student]

Cel:
I'm edgy, you can 'get that blade for next to nothing' like the 'DOLLAR SHAVE CLUB

Esso:
Everything I send is razor sharp', I'm the FUCKING BEST IN HISTORY, call me 'Dollar Shave Club' with that 'CUTTING EDGE DELIVERY

Clearly not bitten.

[Celsius]

so because 2 years has passed since i said the bar it makes it okay? and not once did i say he bit me...more like swagger jacked

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i just found out about it today actually...thought id shed some light thats all. I wanted answers and he got offended...makes it more suspicious

[Dexter3]

http://i1193.photobucket.com/albums/aa346/BloodyMaary/Actors/Dexter4.gif

[Esso]

so because 2 years has passed since i said the bar it makes it okay? and not once did i say he bit me...more like swagger jacked

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i just found out about it today actually...thought id shed some light thats all. I wanted answers and he got offended...makes it more suspicious

offended? i just explained the difference between the two...theres no feelings involved. apparently, no one else is convinced either. its cool. I know what youre doing....we've been through this before.

[Celsius]

offended? i just explained the difference between the two...theres no feelings involved. apparently, no one else is convinced either. its cool. I know what youre doing....we've been through this before.

You took my idea and ran with it. That im sure we can all agree on. This isnt ammo for the tourney...more like a build up for it. We'll let the bars do the rest...Im out

[Esso]

This isnt ammo for the tourney...more like a build up for it.

Oh, its not?....:D

not like I needed more, but thanks...

[J u s T C]

A 2 year old 3 word reference is a concious bite? Or "Swagger jack" Okay guy. Thats like trademarking Tesco punchlines or The Matrix or the fucking Post Office ffs. Lol gtfo this is some dumb shit. Whats worse is you keeping up the charade like it's legit.

[Celsius]

A 2 year old 3 word reference is a concious bite? Or "Swagger jack" Okay guy. Thats like trademarking Tesco punchlines or The Matrix or the fucking Post Office ffs. Lol gtfo this is some dumb shit. Whats worse is you keeping up the charade like it's legit.



Link me to where youve ever seen a dollar shave club line.let alone twice on the same site by a guy who voted and poined it out.....you act like ppl are saying it left and right.

Waits forever....

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Oh, its not?....:D

not like I needed more, but thanks...

waits for 1000000 eth references.

[Nicholas]

A 2 year old 3 word reference is a concious bite? Or "Swagger jack" Okay guy. Thats like trademarking Tesco punchlines or The Matrix or the fucking Post Office ffs. Lol gtfo this is some dumb shit. Whats worse is you keeping up the charade like it's legit.

I agree with this. You can't bite a subject matter.

[Papi]

Not a bite

[Rant]

I bet I could do this same thing with every person in this thread. Find an idea, or concept that they've used that is similar to mine, that they've used after the fact.

[Babylon]

I bet I could do this same thing with every person in this thread. Find an idea, or concept that they've used that is similar to mine, that they've used after the fact.

Probably lol, I thought cels claim was more solid when he said "couple months later" or something implying a more recent example but I failed to realize a couple months meant like 24+

[EtH]

"My multi account is called Unethical caude of beef" hahahahahahaha

[lllllllllllll]

Getting exposed while trying to expose someone else must hurt haha. If it ain't legit biting, it isn't thread worthy.

"Swagger jacking" isn't really thread worthy actually. Your style is either being made fresher or worse.

[Aggo]

Rant bit my kick the bucket idiom.

[Babylon]

Rant bit my kick the bucket idiom.

dead lmao:D

[EtH]

Cel acted like such a bitch in this "beef" that hes actually expecting to be insulted over it in battles haha

[Celsius]

I bet I could do this same thing with every person in this thread. Find an idea, or concept that they've used that is similar to mine, that they've used after the fact.

and also pointed out in an exlo?


ill wait...go grab all the links you can find.

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Getting exposed while trying to expose someone else must hurt haha. If it ain't legit biting, it isn't thread worthy.

"Swagger jacking" isn't really thread worthy actually. Your style is either being made fresher or worse.

lol where did i get exposed

onne guy jumps.ship they all hop on the bandwaggon

lmao :monkey:

[Rant]

and also pointed out in an exlo?


ill wait...go grab all the links you can find.

Can the expo be from two years before the battle?

[Celsius]

Can the expo be from two years before the battle?

TIme frame doesnt matter. Just that they pointed it out.

waits

[J u s T C]

TIme frame doesnt matter. Just that they pointed it out.

waits
I legit think you're as dumb as this shit makes you look. It's easy for YOU to pull that kinda evidence.... It's YOUR battle. Expecting others to trudge through tens or hundreds of battles and comments, just to find the kinda evidence that fell on your fucking LAP, just to prove what we all already know (you're an idiot clutching at straws) and if no 1 can be assed doing that ( srsly Wtf would? Zzzzzzzzzz) you gonna act like you proved your point. Lol.

[Esso]

Celsius....a million Eth references? Nah...I got this 16 that Bnas never answered...I might just get that deleted and copy and paste it.....that or a little off the top mixed with ShotsFired throwaways. Havent decided yet.