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Babylon
07-23-2015, 11:15 PM
This is a long read, if you don't want to spend 7 minutes reading something that could lead to a real change in this place instead of stagnation & shallow bitching... then fair enough, click off now. But if you want a better letsbeef, at least consider reading & posting your thoughts, but most importantly TAKING ACTION below. I also made every other block of text colored to make it easier on the eyes.

To begin, I'd like to sincerely thank Godbody for bringing this up (I know it was brought up before, but I've never seen it so this is a new concept for at least me.) I've become super fucking interested in pushing this movement, and I think others will be inclined to feel the same as well.



The bad thing about all of our ideas that just keep getting recycled and recycled as different people bring them up over the years, is that often only one or two dudes has the drive to push it to completion. We don't need to bitch about the people who run this place. FUCK the people who run this place, owners don't even exist anymore. We are the only people keeping this place afloat. Seriously, right now, any single person who is reading this holds more power over letsbeef.com than the ones who actually pay for the servers. Who cares if that's sad, or if that shouldn't be the case, because right now its reality and only we can change that shit.

So to end this hype up talk that all of us should already know, this is The Crew Situation.

At any given times there are no more than 3 good crews on letsbeef.com. That's terrible, we all know it, but until now its just been a reality to do absolutely nothing about it, & maybe two or three dudes to bitch about it every now and then. But I think it's time to fuck around & shake LB to its core, if certain heads in this bitch left their respective crews to begin more, smaller, elevation based crews we could easily turn this place back into the beef ridden, hate-filled battleground it used to be. OR into a breeding ground for intellectual thought and progressive elevation. It's literally up to us. Think of letsbeef.com as a building that fell a long time ago, but people loved that building so much they put tents on the front lawn. We've been living in tents for a hella long time cunts, and we can mold the new foundation into any-fucking-thing we want! We could literally change this website into a My little pony fanfiction centre if we all put our minds to it, that's how much power individual users have these days. We've forgotten how much impact a single person can cause, and that's fucking sad.

What I personally think users should do? Begin crews with the intent of intense elevation, as with the multitude of crews that will be here if this movement really does pop off talent will be sparring. The reason shit is going like it is right now is because there isn't an overflow of talent on here, granted, there's quite a bit of amazing artists reading this sentence right now, there isn't an overabundance of them. Because of this we basically just create crews with the intent to have all dope writers flock over to our ranks because that's the only system we've known. It's the only system that works with minimal work in an environment like this, with what I said about the influx of talent above.

Another thing that could severely benefit this movement is getting staff on our side. Staff has legitimately never been on the side of regular, every-day users since I joined this place. Everyone, including me, just has spite & complaints towards them. Now, with this new movement, I personally think its time to recognize staff as people who can help change this place, alongside us. So to any single staff member reading this, consider personally messaging or IM'ing a higher unit of staff about maybe granting small amounts of exclusive to whoever creates a crew (then having that not be able to be done again for lets say 3 months, so that abusing this system isnt a factor.) Or perhaps creating a new Emcee award dedicated to those who are actively trying to bring this place back. Anything you can think of to help this movement is positive, and your personal message, your IM, or just your thoughtful post on a thread can be the aiding factor towards jumpstarting this movement.

Shit isn't about being a selfish leader of a dope crew anymore. Shit isn't about undying loyalty to an old brand anymore. Shits about either diving off of this ship & swimming until your arms fall off to find an island to rebuild on, or being content with death & letting it go under. it's your choice fam, but I for one would like to at least ATTEMPT to swim before that last little bit of mast fades into the depths.

So please, for the sake of this community we all love, consider being a part of the only real change this place has faced in years.

Godbody
Punk
Rant
Shodan
Lockhart
Aggo
oSo Slick
Dizzy Dash
Erupt
Nocky
RULE
NOBLE
@👊MaCc Da Bully👊
AnyONE/EVERYONE

Shodan
07-23-2015, 11:33 PM
We could literally change this website into a My little pony fanfiction centre if we all put our minds to it, that's how much power individual users have these days.

The rules are fairly clear. No posting of pornographic material on letsbeef.



















Jokes aside totally starting up a crew on my multi after reading this.

V3numb
07-23-2015, 11:35 PM
i support this

ice-9
07-23-2015, 11:48 PM
New guy here, so I don't know shit. But from that perspective I'd say that it isn't really enough just to break up the crews so that you have more around. What you'd then need to do is have a structured plan for getting the crews to battle each other. Off the top of my head you could do a round robin and then have the top 4 crews go into knockout tournament to crown a champion. Once the tournament has finished, then you can let teams shuffle and kick the whole thing off again.

If that's already a thing then ignore me.

Edit: Great post by the way OP!

Rant
07-24-2015, 12:03 AM
i support this

Said the guy in the single biggest crew on the site at present. You're part of the problem, faggot.

lllllllllllll
07-24-2015, 12:08 AM
^ LOL

I support this. I'm starting a new crew ;]

MaCc Da G0D
07-24-2015, 12:20 AM
But realistically, its A lot of big Crews w/ ALOT OF INACTIVE MEMBERS. One thing that should be implemented is If Someone Hasn't Logged On in 1-2 months them she should be kicced from the crew with the promise of a return invite when active again.

That would help Size too.

And this needs to be addressed too, THERE ARE TOO MANY REGULARS, VETS, ROOKIES, MODS AND SUBSEQUENT LEADERS ONLINE EVERY DOING NOTHING BUT TROLLING! THATS WHAT'S CAUSING ALOT OF THIS STALLED STAGE THAT LB IS IN...

JUST MY OPINION....

lllllllllllll
07-24-2015, 12:41 AM
.........................who is this nigga

Dean
07-24-2015, 12:43 AM
Masters of Evil.

lllllllllllll
07-24-2015, 12:46 AM
-brings back Purge-

Bleu
07-24-2015, 02:08 AM
I'd start the best elevation crew out if I had my lifetime exclusive but I don't lol. Punk invite me

Babylon
07-24-2015, 02:45 AM
^Ayyyyy, you coming back officially fam? Also Punks crew has a dope ass start now, this whole thing is going to be fire.

Bleu
07-24-2015, 03:32 AM
Nah I'ma just be coachin & droppin tracks maybe. I jus wanna keep this approach (the online battling style) to the art form alive & keep these corny netcees at bay cuz they're the ones ruining shit.

Godbody
07-24-2015, 07:19 AM
bump :pimp:

exZACHly
07-24-2015, 10:12 AM
Well i'm all for anything that will help the overall activity on this site...with that being said:

1) Will those 'top 3 or 4 crews' (including yours) be on board? I think what Godbody had mentioned about like 6 man crews would be the best way to go...that way your whole team is involved in crew battle and let's be honest as of right now crews with 10+ people aren't helping anything

2) Are these heads that have been basically inactive for a while going to all of sudden be coming back to battle because of this? A lot of people just don't battle regularly anymore (they'll pop in for Tournaments and stuff like a Title is all they care about, and not really interested in just doing this for fun like they once did) Maybe it's the competition level they want or something i dunno, Better battles need to happen more often

3) Will it just be smaller versions of who can recruit the top members and just stack a squad? Crews need more balance, The 'members' in some crews could be leaders and capo's elsewhere

Not trying to be negative here, but like you said individuals have the power. People should just want to come to a rap battle site, and i dunno...actually battle. Good to see there are some people that actually still care about LB and i applaud any attempts to help out though.

Shodan
07-24-2015, 10:38 AM
Nah I'ma just be coachin & droppin tracks maybe. I jus wanna keep this approach (the online battling style) to the art form alive & keep these corny netcees at bay cuz they're the ones ruining shit.

whoa man. no need to use the n-word on here

Fybre Optikz
07-24-2015, 11:34 AM
fine speech..i support the movement

InCizion
07-24-2015, 12:31 PM
I've been on a few different boards through the years and it has always ended the same way....The board shutting down or changing directions. The key is to hold the attention of its members and not even the best boards were able to do that in the long run.

With that being said.... any positive movement is worth a try. I enjoyed coming to these type of boards and it really helped me to elevate my writing skills. I have not written much of anything for years (did post one simple drop with no feed in the Topical Section). I will be more then happy to help out any way I can get more active.

RULE
07-24-2015, 03:44 PM
Do it big fellas.

OSKAR
07-24-2015, 04:26 PM
My money is on Classick making a return

Rant
07-24-2015, 06:44 PM
Well i'm all for anything that will help the overall activity on this site...with that being said:

1) Will those 'top 3 or 4 crews' (including yours) be on board? I think what Godbody had mentioned about like 6 man crews would be the best way to go...that way your whole team is involved in crew battle and let's be honest as of right now crews with 10+ people aren't helping anything

2) Are these heads that have been basically inactive for a while going to all of sudden be coming back to battle because of this? A lot of people just don't battle regularly anymore (they'll pop in for Tournaments and stuff like a Title is all they care about, and not really interested in just doing this for fun like they once did) Maybe it's the competition level they want or something i dunno, Better battles need to happen more often

3) Will it just be smaller versions of who can recruit the top members and just stack a squad? Crews need more balance, The 'members' in some crews could be leaders and capo's elsewhere

Not trying to be negative here, but like you said individuals have the power. People should just want to come to a rap battle site, and i dunno...actually battle. Good to see there are some people that actually still care about LB and i applaud any attempts to help out though.


I hope you choke to death on a stray pubic hair, faggot.

Babylon
07-24-2015, 09:05 PM
Well i'm all for anything that will help the overall activity on this site...with that being said:

1) Will those 'top 3 or 4 crews' (including yours) be on board? I think what Godbody had mentioned about like 6 man crews would be the best way to go...that way your whole team is involved in crew battle and let's be honest as of right now crews with 10+ people aren't helping anything

I think my main objective right now is to get those bigger crews on board, mostly because it's going to be hard as fuck to do that. Even I don't want to leave Higher Education and start another crew, as I fucking love HE, and I understand that others will feel the same about their respective crews. I think the main thing we should realize at this point is that it's not really about having a top crew right now, as I detailed in the OP, it's about starting something that can lead to a better LB, and if I need to set aside my personal feelings so that everyone on here can have a better experience I'm very down to do that.

Right now I'm just brainstorming name ideas if I'm going to be creating a new crew, as well as considering starting a new one on a multi. But we're in the HELLA early stages of this, no one should expect even slight results yet. In fact, it's kind of fucking awesome that Godbody, Shodan, and Punk have taken initiative to start their own crews as well as SplitSouls for reaching out of that Free Agent status to build up better rosters.


2) Are these heads that have been basically inactive for a while going to all of sudden be coming back to battle because of this? A lot of people just don't battle regularly anymore (they'll pop in for Tournaments and stuff like a Title is all they care about, and not really interested in just doing this for fun like they once did) Maybe it's the competition level they want or something i dunno, Better battles need to happen more often

I think that once this pops off people will be more inclined to battle, most definitely. I've almost 100% lost my fire to even sit down and write battle bars, its literally just boring to me now. But when Higher Education vs D1E was announced? I was turning a 16 bar verse into Sistine artwork. It's that drive that I think will be placed into all the inactive battlers that will make this shit more active again, and that drive comes with having a real REASON to write some bars.

3) Will it just be smaller versions of who can recruit the top members and just stack a squad? Crews need more balance, The 'members' in some crews could be leaders and capo's elsewhere

I'm sure it will be at first, that's very very normal. What's going to make this movement dynamic is when all the dope heads are taken and dudes are stalking the "Welcome!" forums for new blood to train and help elevate into a super soldier for their squad, because they HAVE to do that. It's sink or swim, and once all the amazing swimmers hit the finish line its up to the leaders to train more swimmers. Or at least, that's what I'm expecting as of now.

Not trying to be negative here, but like you said individuals have the power. People should just want to come to a rap battle site, and i dunno...actually battle. Good to see there are some people that actually still care about LB and i applaud any attempts to help out though.

Nah def, this is really what we need. Once phase 2 goes on and more crews are made and built up, phase 3 will be released. Phase three will be heavily battle oriented, and I'm attempting to save up some prizes right now so that I can host some good crew tournaments. With that being said, I was homeless as fuck up until like a week ago.. lmao. So if anyone would like to donate any form of prize that could be given out please feel free to private message me.

exZACHly
07-24-2015, 09:42 PM
I hope you choke to death on a stray pubic hair, faggot.

Take your god damn meds Billy lol

---------- Post added at 07:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:32 PM ----------

Yeah Babylon you def make some good points, I'll have to see how this goes

V3numb
07-24-2015, 11:59 PM
Said the guy in the single biggest crew on the site at present. You're part of the problem, faggot.

i been there since day one.. that's just loyalty, all the flashy color titles have left


noone's said it cdnt change?

guess Mr. Hyde back around

Fidel Z
07-25-2015, 12:17 AM
i been there since day one.. that's just loyalty,

Rant
07-25-2015, 12:18 AM
i been there since day one.. that's just loyalty, all the flashy color titles have left


noone's said it cdnt change?

guess Mr. Hyde back around

How about you hyde the pussy you're showing right now. Ho.

Shodan
07-25-2015, 12:54 AM
someone give my alt exclusive so the Lyrical Intelligence Agency can begin recruiting.

Mindless
07-25-2015, 12:56 AM
I should fire up on of my two multis and do some shit. I haven't written a battle in a long time.

V3numb
07-25-2015, 01:49 AM
How about you hyde the pussy you're showing right now. Ho.

only if you eat it.. all pun intended

Rant
07-25-2015, 02:06 AM
I love Vietnamese food.

Shodan
07-26-2015, 12:21 AM
I love food in general. Pizza, steak, whatever, if I can transfer it from the plate to my stomach through my mouth without any dangerous incidents occurring then I will probably eat it

Babylon
07-26-2015, 12:34 AM
^I'm colossally picky, the literal opposite of you. I've never had a hamburger, nor regular ass shit like spaghetti (And my name is Vinny, go figure.)

Shodan
07-26-2015, 04:50 PM
^I'm colossally picky, the literal opposite of you. I've never had a hamburger, nor regular ass shit like spaghetti (And my name is Vinny, go figure.)

Well, if you've never had one, then how do you know you won't like one? c'mon man, at least take one bite off of those baconators. Though I was joking around a little in my previous post; I can't eat Chinese food. Maybe it's just because the places that make it around here are complete shit, but just getting near it makes me want to fucking vomit.

p.s. no offense, but knowing you, I seriously have to question that you'd tell everyone on this forum your real first name.

Óðinn
07-26-2015, 04:59 PM
Good stuff Babylon. I agree with this. Worth a try at least. :high:

V3numb
07-26-2015, 07:54 PM
I love Vietnamese food.

you love all food

Rant
07-26-2015, 08:56 PM
you love all food

Nah, I mostly just suck the period blood from used tampons for sustenance.

Student
07-27-2015, 03:54 PM
I should fire up on of my two multis and do some shit. I haven't written a battle in a long time.

We HAVE to battle.

Babylon
07-27-2015, 07:04 PM
Well, if you've never had one, then how do you know you won't like one? c'mon man, at least take one bite off of those baconators. Though I was joking around a little in my previous post; I can't eat Chinese food. Maybe it's just because the places that make it around here are complete shit, but just getting near it makes me want to fucking vomit.

p.s. no offense, but knowing you, I seriously have to question that you'd tell everyone on this forum your real first name.

I smoke too much weed to be that paranoid anymore.
That, and I suppose I'm transitioning out of my cyber criminal phase, lmao.

FreezyCT
07-28-2015, 04:41 PM
like this a lot