View Full Version : Ok Ok Ok A Few Things I Feel Need To Be Said....
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 08:22 AM
this isnt a godbody rant or a detrimental statement this is some fundamental questions about Letsbeef and where its going and what should or shouldnt be happening ....
let me start with the forums ...
Welcome Forum
Love this idea however all system posts at least should be posting it with an @ mention if not a direct PM to that new person ... im loving the community's response to this all seem to be engaing in welcoming our new members which is great...
further more to this in the long run all new members will make this there home there go too place all Rules anf forum rules should be moved to here and stickied or atleast duplicated OSKAR i know you updated these ....
Live Chatroom
why in the fuck is this still there.... seriously delete it get rid of it its fucking point less the OP in there has code which doesnt work and its just a fucking link atleast someone embed it in there if its going to stay look so amateur we dont need it shit we can link to the chat room from the MY LB drop down ... come on NOBLE remove this ...
Music Lounge
not used no one posts in it they all use the general forums if we are going to allow all shit to go in the general forum why have this thread get rid of it or enforce the general forum and move threads across ....
cash battles
no problems with this all good and upto date nicely implemented ...
crew battles
the now working flashing GIF looks cheap and tacky in my opinion ... great we are shouting about and this forum was made upon my idea and it kills me to see it so poorly managed ... thank DJ Denton Anarchist and who ever else took it on after i got banned .... however this whole thread needs updating completly why invest pesudo's time in fixing it then having a piss poor foundation to re-launch it on ... NOBLE this needs fucking sorting ASAP the whole threads need re-organising the completed battles sub forum to be deleted ... all it should have now is recruiting and call outs .... this needs some attention ASAP...
also on the subject of crew battles why arent we clearing out the booth of all the old shit if i still had my mod spot you can bet ya ass it would be emptied by now clean and set up ready for new battles to start happening... are we not doing this due to the fear that it may fuck it all up again enlighten me NOBLE Pugz
Graphics
this to me is now outdated and V3numb has to be to blame for it why yall made him green beats me he dont do fuck all!!!!! i saw the mod log when i was a mod he dont do shit .... the forum is dead and pointless make him purple again challange him to re-ignite it or delete it all together and take his mod spot .... either way this makes no sense to me on a battle site any more it should have a sub forum cat in the general thread or something i dont think it warrants its own forum now unless the mod responsible for it does something with it ....
Audio Lounge
@murdeours swag stricc what are yall doing since you been made mods you should have some incentive in this forum something yall should be investing ya time into i dont see yall doing much stricc & swagg i tried to push off that big vote off to yall on the aduio siude to try help out the audio side yet none of yall was interested ??? personally fell yall should be holding little events on the reg to boost activity in this thread... seems pretty dead in there to me...
now onto the Letsbeef happenings section....
i poersonally feel the three promotions contests and contest sign ups should all be put together under the heading "Promotions" a contest is a promotion of Lb itself the sign ups dont need they own forum they can be a sub forum but yes i feel al those three should be put together and the site news should be used as the channel to promote these as they come up on the home page you should then link them to the pomotions section...
i just feel theres too many threads for something that all seem very closely interlinked with each that would look and function a lot better in one place ....
hall fo fame
this is all good but for gods sake give it to EtH RULE no offence my brother but ya been slacking on this ....
the letsbeef site information guide
probably the most useful forum we have and we shove it at the bottom this should be sat under the welcome forum at the top or intergrated as a sub forum into the welcome forum at the top .....
with that said doea anyone agree or have any ideas on what should be different ... new skin lets refresh the forums too ....
moving onto mods now this is going to piss some people off and probably not make me so popluar but seriously i have a point to be made ...
are moderators sole purpose to be REACTIVE or PROACTIVE....
by that i mean are they in a position where we see them as someone we go to to give problems and they fix them...
or do we wont them to be PROACTIVE and be out there pushing new ideas seeing threw new competitoins running forum games and what not intoroducing incentives to increase activity...
for me moderators can be seen as Deputy Managers they all should have specific areas of the site they are responsible for and they all should have targets set in terms of achievements we would like for the site ...
i personally feel each mod should have an area they are working on and are pushing constantly ... currently i feel alot of the mods are just sat on there hands not doing alot for the site in terms of pushing the activity ...
so for example the team should be split up into there own sections ...
i.e
stricc Murderous Swagg
audio section
in holding this section we expect there to be a monthly competion in the audio section we also expect you to have incentives in place to push voting and battling as a whole last month we saw X amount of votes cast this month we wont a 10% increase plus 10% more battles through the booth
AfterThought ILLoKWENT
text section
blah blah blah
V3numb
graphics
blah blah blah
i feel the mods on this site arent pushed enough to go out and achieve we need to be managing the mods giving them tasks and challanges if we all just sit on out hands shit doesnt happen until the community complain about something ...
so what im saying is we need to be PROACTIVE !!!! Pugz NOBLE DJ Denton yall should be pushing your staff into certain areas to focus on them and to bring activity to them but in doing that you need to give them realistic targets and goals that are both realisitic and measurable in the fact that they feel they have achieved you see they have and the site reaps the benifits from that ...
i know ive gone off on a massive thread here but i truely believe all of this is very valid...
i am forever thankful for the work you all do but from a managers point of view this site is mis managed in terms of what it could get out of it from a little structure and drive ...
i mean im not picking fights or anything but what does DJ Denton do as an admin??
what does V3numb do as a mod
does Muggz need a mod spot to be a host of the youtube and radio
it goes out to all the mods the only ones i see putting in work daily and actively in terms of there roles are clearly defined are the like of
ILLoKWENT churns out FVC consistently NOBLE puts in a new skin and does it all of his own back
2FUEL when he is active votes the shit out the booth
OSKAR re-wrote the sites rules and always has a hand in the tourneys running and implementing them
what im saying it all the mods should have a purpose on the site lets look at illo and the FVC we all know he does he actively moderates it he keeps the standards of it to a certain level...
why cant we implement that with all our other members of staff in certain sections of the site ..
like well all know Pugz handles the contests and promo's and cash battles no one complains about those beacuse he has a handle on it he is actively in control of it ...
im saying lets give the mods purpose and convert our team into PROACTIVE moderstors instead of REACTIVE ...
Discuss....
J u s T C
09-25-2014, 09:23 AM
this isnt a godbody rant or a detrimental statement this is some fundamental questions about Letsbeef and where its going and what should or shouldnt be happening ....
let me start with the forums ...
Welcome Forum
Love this idea however all system posts at least should be posting it with an @ mention if not a direct PM to that new person ... im loving the community's response to this all seem to be engaing in welcoming our new members which is great...
I agree. It seems pointless making a welcome thread if the person we're welcoming isn't directed to the thread in some form. People are just wasting their time welcoming these people and th new guy is none the wiser to the actual forums.
further more to this in the long run all new members will make this there home there go too place all Rules anf forum rules should be moved to here and stickied or atleast duplicated OSKAR i know you updated these ....
Live Chatroom
why in the fuck is this still there.... seriously delete it get rid of it its fucking point less the OP in there has code which doesnt work and its just a fucking link atleast someone embed it in there if its going to stay look so amateur we dont need it shit we can link to the chat room from the MY LB drop down ... come on NOBLE remove this ...
Again I agree. It needs addressing. tbt the Tiny Chat has never really worked other than in fits and spells. For the most part it's absolutely dead. I remember when we had the Userplane chat and people were using it every day, talking shit, roasting, caming and micing up to freestyle. Switching to TC killed that part of the site despite numerous protests not to go down that route. The fact it's not even embedded just makes it worse.
I'll replay tot he rest later. Something just came up.
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 10:07 AM
Well i dint think this thread is going anywhere ....
Babylon
09-25-2014, 11:25 AM
Tbh, we need to cut hella boards. I've owned/run numerous online communities and one of my biggest mistakes was creating a board for a bunch of different topics. The truth is, unless you have thousands of people actively browsing your site at any given time, there's going to be stagnation. We really don't have enough members to sustain the boards we have. That's why the topical section is essentially dead. (Or at least I think it is, haven't checked it recently.)
Denton
09-25-2014, 12:02 PM
I pretty much run and fund LB's Social Media outlets and advertising. Thanks smartass
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 12:07 PM
Fund social media last time I checked that was free ... Twitter and Facebook and what as campaigns you paying for ?
lllllllllllll
09-25-2014, 12:08 PM
Tbh, we need to cut hella boards. I've owned/run numerous online communities and one of my biggest mistakes was creating a board for a bunch of different topics. The truth is, unless you have thousands of people actively browsing your site at any given time, there's going to be stagnation. We really don't have enough members to sustain the boards we have. That's why the topical section is essentially dead. (Or at least I think it is, haven't checked it recently.)
Word. We got too many forums thats just there. Shit needs to be organized right and not scattered everywhere.
Denton
09-25-2014, 12:10 PM
Clearly you don't know there's facebook and twitter advertising. Also the radio. I mean fuck I go into my pockets to help this place.
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 12:49 PM
The radio doesn't need paying for and we both know this ...
And if your running Facebook and Twitter ad's where are they why haven't they been shared on here for members to promote ...
Because they don't exsist you just post status and share content don't try tell me ya paying for ads when we both know your bit ...
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Denton
09-25-2014, 01:36 PM
Lol ok faggot. You're so fucking clueless.
Denton
09-25-2014, 01:38 PM
Familiarize yourself with 3rd Party Advertisement before you try to call people out. Also. The radio is registered to me, with my bank account information. Clearly your thread is just a giant wad of flamebait.
Babylon
09-25-2014, 01:49 PM
SBG in this bitch.
Denton
09-25-2014, 01:51 PM
^Straight
Erupt da Monsta
09-25-2014, 01:55 PM
Def. get rid of some of these forums.. To a new member this shit is hard as hell to navigate.... I got one of my homies to sign up 1peace and he is a pretty smart dude and took him forever to navigate.. Less forums would solve that issue I believe.
Another question to have is what drives activity? Is it controversy? Is is battles/tournaments? Clearly the big tourneys draw activity... But what else...
I'm going to try and see what I can think up in regards to the audio side.... I have an idea for the LBA to increase the hype.
Denton
09-25-2014, 01:57 PM
Def. get rid of some of these forums.. To a new member this shit is hard as hell to navigate.... I got one of my homies to sign up 1peace and he is a pretty smart dude and took him forever to navigate.. Less forums would solve that issue I believe.
Another question to have is what drivets activity? Is it controversy? Is is battles/tournaments? Clearly the big tourneys draw activity... But what else...
I'm going to try and see what I can think up in regards to the audio side.... I have an idea for the LBA to increase the hype.
Nothing keeps people's interest anymore. And no one gives a fuck about audio anymore. It's sad really. We can't put a gun to people's head and force them to battle
Erupt da Monsta
09-25-2014, 02:06 PM
Nothing keeps people's interest anymore. And no one gives a fuck about audio anymore. It's sad really. We can't put a gun to people's head and force them to battle
Yeah but you can't look at it like a lost cause cus I dont think it is... more and more texters are makin the transition to audio from LoD.
I think bringing a little more excitement to the table will do the trick. Ima try to make this shit fun again, for myself if anything... Que the monsta....
Denton
09-25-2014, 02:10 PM
It's not a lost cause I know that. It's just extremely difficult. Lemme know your ideas though
Erupt da Monsta
09-25-2014, 02:17 PM
Yeah it's def goin to take some work.... And nothing major.. Just rupt being rupt... to the extreme..... try and have some fun is all. Ima brainstorm a little though
Hubert Cumberdale
09-25-2014, 02:26 PM
Me and Just C are already HOF mods. We disagreed with some decisions of the current schedule and requested that RULE finished out his ones. He declined. Hence, the impass.
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 02:37 PM
I see EtH ....
And DJ Denton the radio account doesn't need funding it's a free service your paying for soemthing that need not get paid for ....
Mans in regards to the 3rd party advertisement again I need not know ...
If you are paying for it I suggest a refund as I don't see people coming here mentioning this so called advertisement your paying for ...
I mean are we marketing new members with surveys as to where they heard about us if not that's kinda dumb if ya paying for a advertisement scheme you have no measure over its results ...
Anyone with half a buisness mentality could tell you that you dumb fuck ....
Your just a jarhead frontline solider son don't act like you know how to run a buisness when your designed to be given orders and follow them ....
All I'm saying is you've picked up on a very small detail from this whole thread because I called you out in it saying wtf do you do ....
The radio show doesn't need you anymore deal with it it's moved way past your level and production you don't even feature on it anymore the intro is all about pugz ....
And again where is this advertisement your claiming on twitter and Facebook where are the members from that advertisement ....
Do us a favour stop acting like you digging money out for shit instead use a buisness module and measure your investment if ya putting in so much get something out of it otherwise you just a dumb fuck .....
Moving on !!!!!! Erupt the audio does need some love big time ....
It's quite simple how we judge what makes people tick instead of guessing use the database we have email the members a survey and get some damn feedback !!! It's not rocket science ...
May I suggest one my company uses ....
https://www.surveymonkey.com
Know your market place before you invest ....
Denton
09-25-2014, 02:50 PM
It's free for 30 min podcasts and a SMALL track soundbank. I pay for 3 hours per podcast and a GB of music. Sit the fuck down faggot
Denton
09-25-2014, 02:52 PM
Not to mention I paid a professional to make us a soundbyte. "Letsbeef Radio..blah blah blah..Stop bitchin' start beefin" yeah that cost ALOT of money to get made. You are such a faggot
remarK
09-25-2014, 02:52 PM
I agree w/ a lot of what's being said. I don't know who is slacking personally as a moderator as X called some people out... but I guess the log and the forums would prove that.
I also don't know if this is a product of you being reduced to a basic member, a backlash of sorts... but even if it is it's proven to be really productive. It's obvious you care. A LOT. lol... and people don't know what goes on behind the scenes most of the time.
You're making a lot of good points with eliminating some forums, condensing some aspects and overall making it more accessible and easier to navigate.
Also, the idea to give each mod a certain area as to which they will put work into/moderate/oversee changes and fix problems is a great idea... like how iLLo has the FVC. They just have to be core areas that really matter.
Still... we can go about this without the bitterness involved. If there are mods doing absolutely nothing, which I doubt it... then yes, they should be relieved of their position... but we should really just try to work together on the problems... make it an open discussion and get the site involved, like you have here.... and push that bitterness aside.
hall fo fame
this is all good but for gods sake give it to EtH RULE no offence my brother but ya been slacking on this ....
Gave it to EtH the day i stepped down son... :confused:
Student
09-25-2014, 03:50 PM
Let's Be Honest X-Cal, You Took My Post Off The Beta Site And Posts I've Made Before And Added Your Own Faggot Twist To It, Stop It Man. You're Done, You Can't Come Back From Being A Super Fag, Tryna Motive Folks And Shit. GTFO.
X-Calibur
09-25-2014, 05:47 PM
Took your posts of the beta site ??? No I really didn't Student this I typed today of you had the same points then why haven't you aired them ????
Don't make this about you and me ...
remarK I'm not bitter bro pushing for progress denton just sour to me which is rich as when he came back I have him the platform to rebuild himself on ....
But sall good
Babylon
09-25-2014, 07:31 PM
EDIT: You're all just faggots.
Godbody
09-25-2014, 07:34 PM
this isnt a godbody rant or a detrimental statement this is some fundamental questions about Letsbeef and where its going and what should or shouldnt be happening ....
let me start with the forums ...
Welcome Forum
Love this idea however all system posts at least should be posting it with an @ mention if not a direct PM to that new person ... im loving the community's response to this all seem to be engaing in welcoming our new members which is great...
further more to this in the long run all new members will make this there home there go too place all Rules anf forum rules should be moved to here and stickied or atleast duplicated OSKAR i know you updated these ....
Live Chatroom
why in the fuck is this still there.... seriously delete it get rid of it its fucking point less the OP in there has code which doesnt work and its just a fucking link atleast someone embed it in there if its going to stay look so amateur we dont need it shit we can link to the chat room from the MY LB drop down ... come on NOBLE remove this ...
Music Lounge
not used no one posts in it they all use the general forums if we are going to allow all shit to go in the general forum why have this thread get rid of it or enforce the general forum and move threads across ....
cash battles
no problems with this all good and upto date nicely implemented ...
crew battles
the now working flashing GIF looks cheap and tacky in my opinion ... great we are shouting about and this forum was made upon my idea and it kills me to see it so poorly managed ... thank DJ Denton Anarchist and who ever else took it on after i got banned .... however this whole thread needs updating completly why invest pesudo's time in fixing it then having a piss poor foundation to re-launch it on ... NOBLE this needs fucking sorting ASAP the whole threads need re-organising the completed battles sub forum to be deleted ... all it should have now is recruiting and call outs .... this needs some attention ASAP...
also on the subject of crew battles why arent we clearing out the booth of all the old shit if i still had my mod spot you can bet ya ass it would be emptied by now clean and set up ready for new battles to start happening... are we not doing this due to the fear that it may fuck it all up again enlighten me NOBLE Pugz
Graphics
this to me is now outdated and V3numb has to be to blame for it why yall made him green beats me he dont do fuck all!!!!! i saw the mod log when i was a mod he dont do shit .... the forum is dead and pointless make him purple again challange him to re-ignite it or delete it all together and take his mod spot .... either way this makes no sense to me on a battle site any more it should have a sub forum cat in the general thread or something i dont think it warrants its own forum now unless the mod responsible for it does something with it ....
Audio Lounge
@murdeours swag stricc what are yall doing since you been made mods you should have some incentive in this forum something yall should be investing ya time into i dont see yall doing much stricc & swagg i tried to push off that big vote off to yall on the aduio siude to try help out the audio side yet none of yall was interested ??? personally fell yall should be holding little events on the reg to boost activity in this thread... seems pretty dead in there to me...
now onto the Letsbeef happenings section....
i poersonally feel the three promotions contests and contest sign ups should all be put together under the heading "Promotions" a contest is a promotion of Lb itself the sign ups dont need they own forum they can be a sub forum but yes i feel al those three should be put together and the site news should be used as the channel to promote these as they come up on the home page you should then link them to the pomotions section...
i just feel theres too many threads for something that all seem very closely interlinked with each that would look and function a lot better in one place ....
hall fo fame
this is all good but for gods sake give it to EtH RULE no offence my brother but ya been slacking on this ....
the letsbeef site information guide
probably the most useful forum we have and we shove it at the bottom this should be sat under the welcome forum at the top or intergrated as a sub forum into the welcome forum at the top .....
with that said doea anyone agree or have any ideas on what should be different ... new skin lets refresh the forums too ....
moving onto mods now this is going to piss some people off and probably not make me so popluar but seriously i have a point to be made ...
are moderators sole purpose to be REACTIVE or PROACTIVE....
by that i mean are they in a position where we see them as someone we go to to give problems and they fix them...
or do we wont them to be PROACTIVE and be out there pushing new ideas seeing threw new competitoins running forum games and what not intoroducing incentives to increase activity...
for me moderators can be seen as Deputy Managers they all should have specific areas of the site they are responsible for and they all should have targets set in terms of achievements we would like for the site ...
i personally feel each mod should have an area they are working on and are pushing constantly ... currently i feel alot of the mods are just sat on there hands not doing alot for the site in terms of pushing the activity ...
so for example the team should be split up into there own sections ...
i.e
stricc Murderous Swagg
audio section
in holding this section we expect there to be a monthly competion in the audio section we also expect you to have incentives in place to push voting and battling as a whole last month we saw X amount of votes cast this month we wont a 10% increase plus 10% more battles through the booth
AfterThought ILLoKWENT
text section
blah blah blah
V3numb
graphics
blah blah blah
i feel the mods on this site arent pushed enough to go out and achieve we need to be managing the mods giving them tasks and challanges if we all just sit on out hands shit doesnt happen until the community complain about something ...
so what im saying is we need to be PROACTIVE !!!! Pugz NOBLE DJ Denton yall should be pushing your staff into certain areas to focus on them and to bring activity to them but in doing that you need to give them realistic targets and goals that are both realisitic and measurable in the fact that they feel they have achieved you see they have and the site reaps the benifits from that ...
i know ive gone off on a massive thread here but i truely believe all of this is very valid...
i am forever thankful for the work you all do but from a managers point of view this site is mis managed in terms of what it could get out of it from a little structure and drive ...
i mean im not picking fights or anything but what does DJ Denton do as an admin??
what does V3numb do as a mod
does Muggz need a mod spot to be a host of the youtube and radio
it goes out to all the mods the only ones i see putting in work daily and actively in terms of there roles are clearly defined are the like of
ILLoKWENT churns out FVC consistently NOBLE puts in a new skin and does it all of his own back
2FUEL when he is active votes the shit out the booth
OSKAR re-wrote the sites rules and always has a hand in the tourneys running and implementing them
what im saying it all the mods should have a purpose on the site lets look at illo and the FVC we all know he does he actively moderates it he keeps the standards of it to a certain level...
why cant we implement that with all our other members of staff in certain sections of the site ..
like well all know Pugz handles the contests and promo's and cash battles no one complains about those beacuse he has a handle on it he is actively in control of it ...
im saying lets give the mods purpose and convert our team into PROACTIVE moderstors instead of REACTIVE ...
Discuss....
TLDR
Babylon
09-25-2014, 07:37 PM
^You're such a colossal faggot it literally hurts just to concieve the fact that you exist.
You bash the fuck out of the website for not doing shit then when someone challenges things and talks about true ass shit you TLDR them.
Eat a dick.
EDIT: X-Cal is still stupid as fuck for breaking the rules, but this random spurt of activity he's in right now is what this shithole actually needs lmao. The truth might be that he's just showing off after being de-modded, but even if that is the case he's challenging the dumbfuck things the management has done to this website.
Also I showed people the new skin and they all said it looks like a myspace page from 2009, though that is completely irrelevant I thought it was hella funny multiple people said it looked like a myspace page.
Murderous Swag
09-25-2014, 09:20 PM
Let me just say this....we dealt away from that whole segregated bullshit image...text mods work text audio mods work audio...we all work both sides...Now clearly your still emotional about your demodding...ive been active since ive obtained my laptop charger i ordered....and had some personal issues to resolve...as far as the whole monthly competition thats not really going to boost voting ....ive been pushing battles to members lacking votes to close or some i felt deserved the hotlist....i put in work just ask your mother........i carry my weight and firmly feel the staff isnt bad as of right now,Rant ended
Godbody
09-25-2014, 09:36 PM
lol Babylon has a Godbody fetish
lol Babylon has a Godbody fetish
lmao
Mindless
09-25-2014, 10:29 PM
XCal backseat modding like a mother fucker. Didn't you used to own a site or something XCal? Whatever happened to it?
Babylon
09-25-2014, 10:34 PM
Would be cool if someone started a clone site of this with a different name and logos and just didn't have terrible management.
J u s T C
09-25-2014, 10:41 PM
Rule or anyone else could take a year out of modding the HoF in terms of being pro active and no 1 should raise an eyebrow.
What you think we should be offering HoFs like candy?
They should and will be a very rare special occasion. When it happens it will feel worth it.
stricc
09-25-2014, 10:47 PM
as far as audio side goes...denton said it best,you cant force people to battle...holding a audio tourney every month would most likely just result in a lot of no shows and frustration...im not saying audio is just done(personally I highly favor audio over text) but we need a better idea than just holding mini tournies every month in tha hopes people will jump back on board...people have to be motivated and two emcee items isn't gonna do it...what is your great idea for bringing audio back to life x-cal? im curious...and as far as me not being on my job enough you can miss me with that...im still learnin tha ropes of this mod shit but I help everyone I can when they need it and keep my eyes open for shit that needs to be modded...don't mistake not being power hungry and trying to just mod tha shit out of everything for being lazy
Mindless
09-26-2014, 02:20 AM
don't mistake not being power hungry and trying to just mod tha shit out of everything for being lazy
This is the crux of it. There's only so much staff can do and the idea that they should be "creating work" for themselves is foolish and only going to lead to problems.
X-Calibur
09-26-2014, 03:00 AM
XCal backseat modding like a mother fucker. Didn't you used to own a site or something XCal? Whatever happened to it?
I never owned a site a admin'd sixshot.com and it got sold out to a big company who went bankrupt in its first year of owning the site and the site got shut down it was the oldest online hip hop magazine and was the first site to have a battle booth system...
But that's the past ....
All other comments in here I haven't fully read yet but I'm sure it's the same old ....
I'm seeing people think I'm bitter of losing my mod spot ....
Let me clear something up I never asked for it and it was given to me I was as suprised as most of you .... The fact I'm not a mod hasn't changed me or what I've posted I'd still have posted this thread ...
One thing I think the staff don't do enough off is run things via the community they make a lot of decision based on there own opinions one of my goals when I was a mods was to try involve the community in more discussions ....
Hence the FVC thread I know the staff voted and took a stance in it already but I was curious to see if the community as a whole where in the same page ....
Godbody
09-26-2014, 07:01 AM
moderate deez nuts
remarK
09-26-2014, 07:09 AM
moderate deez nuts
lmfaooooo
J u s T C
09-26-2014, 07:14 AM
One thing I think the staff don't do enough off is run things via the community they make a lot of decision based on there own opinions one of my goals when I was a mods was to try involve the community in more discussions ....
The community isn't to be trusted to use decency and common sense. The level headed reasonable people on here are a minority. You can't have the inmates running the asylum. You think it's bad now? lol
X-Calibur
09-26-2014, 07:24 AM
The community isn't to be trusted to use decency and common sense. The level headed reasonable people on here are a minority. You can't have the inmates running the asylum. You think it's bad now? lol
That's a hurtful analogy there bro and a very miss guided view ... Denton was calling me a martyr dictatorship leader ....
What you have to remember is they aren't here under enforced circumstances everyone who logs on and partakes in letsbeef are doing so via there free will and based on that alone we deserve to give them the choice over things at least a voice it doesn't necessarily mean you have to act upon that voice but the next genius or site owner or watever may be sat in this community with no engage not to contribute to the site ....
All I'm saying is you look at any successful buisness module and consumer feedback and involvement is at the core of its success as ultimately we are providing a service for the public if the public become alienated they will move on fact ....
I work in the customer service industry I have first hand experience if what it does when you involve your consumer ...
Whatbis like to see and in sure the majority of the community would like to see is the staff publishing polls on future decisions instead of making decisions behind closed doors ofcourse if the decision doesn't have an effect on the users of the site that's fine hold it behind closed doors but 95% of those decisions will have an effect on the users thus there opinions should be accounted for ....
X
Mindless
09-26-2014, 09:16 AM
That's a hurtful analogy there bro and a very miss guided view ... Denton was calling me a martyr dictatorship leader ....
What you have to remember is they aren't here under enforced circumstances everyone who logs on and partakes in letsbeef are doing so via there free will and based on that alone we deserve to give them the choice over things at least a voice it doesn't necessarily mean you have to act upon that voice but the next genius or site owner or watever may be sat in this community with no engage not to contribute to the site ....
All I'm saying is you look at any successful buisness module and consumer feedback and involvement is at the core of its success as ultimately we are providing a service for the public if the public become alienated they will move on fact ....
I work in the customer service industry I have first hand experience if what it does when you involve your consumer ...
Whatbis like to see and in sure the majority of the community would like to see is the staff publishing polls on future decisions instead of making decisions behind closed doors ofcourse if the decision doesn't have an effect on the users of the site that's fine hold it behind closed doors but 95% of those decisions will have an effect on the users thus there opinions should be accounted for ....
X
LB isn't a socialist democracy. It's a benevolent dictatorship. The site owners make decisions based on staff input and some staff get to make decisions on their own because they've earned a place at that table. You can't put everything to a vote or nothing will ever get done.
X-Calibur
09-26-2014, 10:04 AM
LB isn't a socialist democracy. It's a benevolent dictatorship. The site owners make decisions based on staff input and some staff get to make decisions on their own because they've earned a place at that table. You can't put everything to a vote or nothing will ever get done.
I never said to put everything to the vote I clearly said if decisions are to be made that don't directly or drastically change things for the community then have them behind closed doors but things that do effect these guys should be run by them for opinions at a minimum it's not necessarily a case of you action what they say it's a case of ENGAGEMENT by inviting the community to share opinions creates and sense of purpose for them surely you of all people can see that .....
But as I said I'm not saying we should run every change by them but at least involve them more make them feel appreciated for logging in ....
Do you see ,???
Godbody
09-26-2014, 11:59 AM
All trolling aside I fuck with X Gals passion for the site. He, like me, been around for years and feels the same way I do about a lot of things
A community oriented site should be community driven. why should staff make decisions? It's obvious y'all don't know wtf you're talking about and have very little regard for the community
go through my accounts and the threads I made on each. How many times have I asked for a new skin? & others asked for certain ideas? Idk but I'm sure those kind of threads date back to 2010. NOWS when we get a skin
Why did flyhiphop flop? Cuz X thought he knew what we wanted without consulting with us
U don't just brush off the community and do what YOU think needs to be done. companies go under so many times because of shit like that. Niggas need a wake up
We are still working on a few more features.. please allow us to finish before we spout off all these ideas... theres a lot you mentioned thats already in the works or on the list of things to be done... the best thing you guys can do right now is promote lb outside of lb... bring new users.. get people battling.. utilize the system we have and get it popping.. id appreciate 5 battles in our arena or if you voted on a bunch much more than a long diatribe of what I should be doing... itll be more beneficial to the site.. what we are lacking.. encourage people
X-Calibur
09-26-2014, 12:39 PM
I'm merely trying to build a bridge between staff and community and bigger bridge that doesn't have a guard at one end a bridge that has free flowing traffic between staff and community I'm sorry you all feel like I'm telling you how to do your jobs in really not what I'm telling you is this could be done better if involvement and engagement is given ....
Pugz I love the hustle lately don't get me wrong if anything that's what's got my passion burning more the fact shit is changing ....
Also if you have a "list" of things getting done why not share it with the community invest in your people they will invest in you.... If you show them the progress the "list" and knock each one out the park your community will be ENGAGED on a level this site hasn't seen for a while ...
You tell us to go vote go promote etc that's great but you have to give us confidence our efforts are for a greater cause not just because we've been told too ...
Like I said I'm trying to build the bridge break down some barriers encourage a free flowing traffic of ideas and information from both sides .... I apreciate there's levels to privacy and staff boards etc no doubt but I'd like to see the staff posting ideas to is and asking us what do we think on it .... That's be dope ...
And if yourself and noble posted this list of things you'd like to get done that's be dope too we wouldn't cry and kick up a fuss if not all of it got done but I bet ya ass we'd get excited and buzzed up to see what you are trying to achieve ....
Pugz you know I'm here to keep eryone on there toes you know I got mad love and passion to push this site forward isn't that why you have me my mod spot in the first place for this such passion ....
My flame burns strong at the minute and my mentality of pushing for progress can not be detered ....
But I apreciate you for coming in and commenting ....
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