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RULE
03-11-2013, 08:58 AM
The Greatest Of: Champions


In this article we look at the sites greatest ever champions, using a league table / points system to rank them in an all time order. This article will also highlight those who have achieved rare feats over the multiple prominent formats on the site.


The Points System

The following system will be used to score and rank the sites champions, with the number of points rising dependent on the difficult of the tournament/achievements. If a person has won titles over multiple accounts, they will be represented on the table by their most well known alias. Everyone who has won more than one title will be displayed on the league table.


Hall Of Famer - 10 Points
Someone inducted into the LetsBeef Hall Of Fame. You get 10 points Per Induction.

Grand Champion - 8 Points
Winner of an official Grand Championship tournament. This includes the variants: Beast Mode, Untouchables, Video & Crew champion.

Secondary Champion - 5 Points
Winner of the text, video or audio forms of Topical, Anonymous, Concept, One Bar, Scheme, Concept or Seasonal Throwdown Championships.

THC / AHC / LBT / LBA King - 5 Points
Winner of the PPV "King" title, usually granted for reaching a certain number of title match victories.

Tag Team / Rookie Champion - 3 Points
Winner of the text, video or audio forms of Tag Team or Rookie Of The Year championship.

THC / AHC / LBA / LBT / LBTT Champion - 2 Points
Winner of a interchangeable title championship. You get 2 points for every reign that includes 1 non-no show victory.

Grand Champion Runner-Up - 2 Point
This is finishing runner-up in a Grand Championship level tournament.

Secondary Title Runner-Up - 1 Points
This is for finishing runner-up in all Orange level tournaments with the exception of the Tag Team or Rookie Of The Year championships.


The League Table


1. Lockhart (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=911877) – 107
2. Bleu (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=908834) – 97
3. UNKNOWN ARTIST (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=50200) / YOU WISH (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=69712) – 53
4. RULE (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=859014) / Revan (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=866335) – 48
5. Seul (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=905314) – 46
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6. Erupt (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=864255) – 41
7. stricc (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=889509) – 36
8. Phil Banks (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=888083) – 35
9. Dono (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=879211) – 34
10. M-Rock (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=53647) – 34
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11. Jason – 33
12. Manhattan (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=880191) – 31
13. Askari (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=32869) – 29
14. Ticket – 28
15. Punk (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=907420) – 28
16. ILLoKWENT (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=886323) / Malishus (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=902658) – 27
17. THA DUKE (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=2233) – 26
18. Edgeworth (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=905997) – 25
19. Real Talk (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=22922) – 21
20. SIXX-SHOTT (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=860936) – 20
21. reEFer (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=86378) – 20
22. ALL-BORO (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=52361) – 20
23. Row (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=908574) – 19
24. DaDDiO (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=71948) – 18
25. Brutally Honest (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=65371) – 18
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26. iLLimit (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=35021) – 18
27. LEFT FIELD (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=39216) – 18
28. MahVulus (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=51443) / Meta4 (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=34119) / So AmAzIn!!! (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=39134) – 18
29. Rai (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=906923) – 16
30. Mayneak (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=50811) – 15
31. Masked-Reaper (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=897883) - 15

32. Esso (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=898387) – 14
33. Celsius – 14
34. Mikey DeNiro (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=865329) – 13
35. Rant (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=908681) / REZN (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=907931) – 13
36. Aggo (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=891607) – 13
37. Danger Rich (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=21666) – 12
38. Stotty Pimpin (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=26905) – 12
39. Skitt Blazin (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=52159) – 11
40. TalkSick (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=28285) – 11
41. Dissizit (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=872284) – 11
42. DJ WENJAY (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=39856) – 10
43. LunaticK (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=29061) – 10
44. RhetoriK (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=16361) – 10
45. Shodan (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=897879) – 10
46. Kiwi Peewee (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=907283) – 10
47. Krhyme Killz (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=89493) – 9
48. BizzyOne (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=894533) – 8
49. Wonderbred (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=896228) – 8
50. Jimmy Dean – 8
51. Skizzo (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=899144) – 8
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52. GRizzEAT (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=869955) – 8
53. FiNAL WoRD (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=868884) – 7
54. Fidel Z (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=907859) – 7
55. Odin (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=64737) – 7
56. Fiji Osa – 7
57. GOOD GRIEF (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=883993) – 6
58. MAN DOWN (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=879082) – 6
59. ViTRiOL (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=872283) – 6
60. Phroxen (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=886389) - 6

61. YC (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=904164) – 5
62. Obey (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=892298) – 5





The Cross-Format Champions

The following is a list of champions with at least 5 points in each of at least two different categories (audio, text, track, video):

1. Lockhart – 107 (42 Audio, 65 Text)
2. Bleu – 97 (57 Audio, 40 Text)
3. UNKNOWN ARTIST / YOU WISH – 53 (12 Audio, 41 Text)
4. RULE / Revan – 48 (10 Audio, 38 Text)
5. Seul – 46 (41 Audio, 5 Text)
6. Erupt – 41 (3 Audio, 28 Text, 10 Track)
7. stricc – 36 (20 Audio, 16 Video)
8. Dono – 34 (7 Audio, 27 Text)
9. Manhattan – 31 (5 Audio, 26 Text)
10. Punk – 28 (13 Audio, 5 Text, 10 Track)
11. Brutally Honest – 18 (8 Audio, 10 Track)


Miscellaneous Statistics

– Erupt & Punk are the only people ever to achieve points in 3 different fields (Audio, Text & Tracks)

– Erupt is the most successful person never to have held a belt, while Mayneak is the most successful person to have never won a tournament and the most successful person never to have won a tournament or held a belt

– Only 6 people have ten or more accomplishments on this metric: Lockhart (21), Bleu (19), RULE (11), UA (10), Seul (10) & Dono (10).

– Dono is the most successful person never to win a GC & the most successful yet to be inducted into the HOF.

– Bleu holds the record for winning the most GCs (6), for losing the most tournament finals (7) & shares with Lockhart the record for losing the most GC finals (3).

– Lockhart holds the record for winning the most tournaments (13), the most Secondary Championships (9) & shares with Rai the record for the most belt reigns (3).

– The Top 10 includes 5 Text HOFers, 6 Audio HOFers & 1 Track HOFer

RULE
09-05-2013, 05:44 PM
Updated

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RULE
06-22-2014, 11:25 AM
Updated.

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ViTRiOL
06-24-2014, 02:50 PM
RULE - bitch give me two points.

RULE
06-24-2014, 03:03 PM
RULE - bitch give me two points.

Gotta win two titles to make the list :D

ViTRiOL
06-24-2014, 03:21 PM
Gotta win two titles to make the list :D

Might as well add One Bar, ATT and GC to my tally in advance then. :D

Óðinn
07-03-2014, 01:19 AM
Might as well add One Bar, ATT and GC to my tally in advance then. :D

:hah:


You're crazy.

Dean
07-03-2014, 09:29 PM
Might as well add One Bar, ATT and GC to my tally in advance then. :D


:drizz:

Mayneak
07-04-2014, 11:13 PM
Hall Of Famer = 5pts
1st Intercontinental Champion = 4pts
Letsbeef Patriarch = 1pt
The Irish Godfather = Priceless


:high:

RULE
07-07-2014, 07:27 AM
stricc moves up to 4th all time with his 3rd GC.

Danger Rich
07-22-2014, 08:29 AM
8 points now...ive got ground to make up

UNKNOWN ARTIST
07-29-2014, 09:20 PM
Rule ... break down the points if you will old bean

Dono
08-23-2014, 04:43 PM
Double or nothing.

Erupt da Monsta
09-01-2014, 02:51 PM
Ait two more tourney wins and i'll be close to the top of the list where i belong.. time to get it in.... ez

stricc
09-01-2014, 04:18 PM
one more gc and HOF status gon bump me to damn near tha top

NatsHubby
09-02-2014, 09:43 AM
one more tourney win and Ill be at the top of the list...let's go

Erupt da Monsta
10-09-2014, 01:56 AM
The sites in need of another Jedi... and I'm coming for you UNKNOWN ARTIST .... The force is strong here my nigga... You might wanta come out of retirement fam.. and avenge that L I gave you I think im the only unavenged L you got... wassup...

that goes for DaDDiO , Real Talk , Jason RULE ... I'm coming for all you niggas.... :)

Manhattan
10-09-2014, 01:20 PM
This needs to be edited. Some people moving up the ladder. Haha Erupt you already at daddios points w/ 9.

RULE
10-09-2014, 03:21 PM
EtH running this section now.

Row
10-09-2014, 07:18 PM
This needs to be edited. Some people moving up the latter. Haha Erupt you already at daddios points w/ 9.

*ladder idiot :high:

Student
10-09-2014, 08:47 PM
I'll Happily Take Over This If EtH Is Too Busy Making Cartoons Of Rain Matrix Raping A Guy Or Whatever.

Manhattan
10-16-2014, 12:01 PM
*ladder idiot :high:

Oh god....I misspelled a word :high:

Manhattan
10-16-2014, 12:52 PM
NOBLE gave me the nod to update this....Updated

Erupt da Monsta
10-18-2014, 01:19 AM
Cracked that top ten all time.... LoD has 4 out of 10 of the top champions. FOH

Phracture
10-18-2014, 09:30 AM
Manhattan .. Throw me up there bruh

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nvm i see u gotta win 2 titles..

Hubert Cumberdale
10-18-2014, 09:33 AM
I'll Happily Take Over This If EtH Is Too Busy Making Cartoons Of Rain Matrix Raping A Guy Or Whatever.

It was Shellz raping Rain.

Manhattan
12-08-2014, 12:37 AM
Updated....Bleu makes the list #17 with his recent Grand Champion and LBT Champion

Row
06-10-2015, 04:43 PM
updated

Manhattan
04-01-2016, 03:03 PM
Indica moves to 11th all time w/ his recent Scheme Champion title.

Nicholas
07-19-2017, 01:08 PM
Updated for: Erupt 's HOF entry and Celsius 's Scheme Championship.

EDIT: Also updated Esso's count which was incorrect.

Celsius
07-19-2017, 01:23 PM
25th all time and climbing. :D..smh those 2 gc wins woulda put me 7th. This rank system is bomb.

Nicholas
07-19-2017, 01:28 PM
RULE do we count Track HOF's towards the total? If so, someone like Brutally Honest would have 9 points & Danger Rich would have 10.

Nicholas
07-19-2017, 04:03 PM
The sites in need of another Jedi... and I'm coming for you UNKNOWN ARTIST .... The force is strong here my nigga... You might wanta come out of retirement fam.. and avenge that L I gave you I think im the only unavenged L you got... wassup...

that goes for DaDDiO , Real Talk , Jason RULE ... I'm coming for all you niggas.... :)

I miss this Rupt. :(

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 08:49 AM
I miss this Rupt. :(

That rupt is just waiting for some shit to pop off he aint went nowhere pimp.
and being that i should actually have 16 total points counting LBA title win ..... I need 4 more points to catch RULE.

Think ima have to go for this Audio Grand Championship next, Then LBT, then some intermediate title to catch UA.

UGGGGGGH

Nicholas
07-20-2017, 09:06 AM
That rupt is just waiting for some shit to pop off he aint went nowhere pimp.
and being that i should actually have 16 total points counting LBA title win ..... I need 4 more points to catch RULE.

Think ima have to go for this Audio Grand Championship next, Then LBT, then some intermediate title to catch UA.

UGGGGGGH

I think there has been a miscount at some point.

Tag Team 1 point
Topical 2 points
LBA 3 points
Grand Championship 4 points
Hall Of Fame 5 points

That totals 15 points. I'll let you confirm I'm not missing something then I'll update.

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 09:12 AM
I think there has been a miscount at some point.

Tag Team 1 point
Topical 2 points
LBA 3 points
Grand Championship 4 points
Hall Of Fame 5 points

That totals 15 points. I'll let you confirm I'm not missing something then I'll update.

Oh yeah tag team is 1 point not 2. fml lol yeah 15 is correct

Nicholas
07-20-2017, 09:19 AM
Updated.

Lockhart
07-20-2017, 09:25 AM
So we're just gonna disregard SpleNDiD? :D

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 09:28 AM
So we're just gonna disregard SpleNDiD? :D

"Everyone who has won more than one title will be displayed on the league table. "

splendid won one title right? lol

Disregard that nigga anyways lmaoooo

Lockhart
07-20-2017, 09:45 AM
"Everyone who has won more than one title will be displayed on the league table. "

splendid won one title right? lol

Disregard that nigga anyways lmaoooo

Yeah but the man is your GOAT's GOAT lmao

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Also, reEFer needs to be added to this, as well.

Row
07-20-2017, 10:21 AM
Wait wtf, without hof (which I'm pretty sure doesn't count towards total, since you can't win it), I'm ahead of rupt

Lockhart
07-20-2017, 10:24 AM
Wait wtf, without hof (which I'm pretty sure doesn't count towards total, since you can't win it), I'm ahead of rupt

Did you count Erupt's LBA Championship?

Row
07-20-2017, 10:25 AM
And I had lbt title as well

---------- Post added at 10:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:24 AM ----------

Did you count Erupt's LBA Championship?

...

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 10:28 AM
Did you count Erupt's LBA Championship?

HOF counts towards total read the OP.

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Everyone whos on this list has HOF as a total that is HOF.

Lockhart
07-20-2017, 10:29 AM
HOF counts towards total read the OP.

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Everyone whos on this list has HOF as a total that is HOF.

I know, which is why reEF needs to be added.

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 10:32 AM
I meant to quote Row's post lol im still tryna wake up

but yeah reefer should have 9

Row
07-20-2017, 10:34 AM
I should have 12 nich

Nicholas
07-20-2017, 11:37 AM
Wait wtf, without hof (which I'm pretty sure doesn't count towards total, since you can't win it), I'm ahead of rupt

It does count, read the OP.

I should have 12 nich

Yep, will update.


PS. Lock I'll look at adding Reefer too.

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 12:03 PM
This nigga Nicholas deserves Mod of the year.

Nicholas
07-20-2017, 12:04 PM
reEFer added.

Bape
07-20-2017, 12:34 PM
This nigga Nicholas deserves Mod of the year.

fax

Row
07-20-2017, 12:39 PM
Lbt king should be on here as well

Erupt da Monsta
07-20-2017, 01:06 PM
dude read the OP.

Nicholas
07-21-2017, 09:42 AM
Obey added for his Rookie Champion title & LBT Champion reign.

Celsius
07-22-2017, 02:07 PM
So if someone is lba champ and lbt chmp..do they get 2 points for each?

Erupt da Monsta
07-22-2017, 02:14 PM
You get 3 points for an LBA or LBT title. but yeah you'd get 3 points for each Celsius

Nicholas
07-22-2017, 02:38 PM
So if someone is lba champ and lbt chmp..do they get 2 points for each?

There are some questions unanswered by RULE's OP. I would assume points for each format. I don't think you should/would get points for multiple reigns though. Otherwise you could benefit from no-showing then winning the title back for example.

Bleu
07-22-2017, 03:06 PM
There are some questions unanswered by RULE's OP. I would assume points for each format. I don't think you should/would get points for multiple reigns though. Otherwise you could benefit from no-showing then winning the title back for example.

You get 3 points each & only credited for the first time you win each title

Celsius
07-22-2017, 03:15 PM
Okay thanks that clears it up i think lol..how cuurrent are these rankings? Should Esso not have 8 points? Lbt champ =3 LBTK ing=3. And Concept champion =2.

Erupt da Monsta
07-22-2017, 03:29 PM
I don't think you should be getting 3 points for both LBT King and LBT title holder. What is LBT King anyways? For holding the title for an extended period of time? same title imo

Nicholas
07-22-2017, 03:47 PM
I don't think you should be getting 3 points for both LBT King and LBT title holder. What is LBT King anyways? For holding the title for an extended period of time? same title imo

LBT King is a permanent title that you earn by defending the LBT title 7 times in a row. This has currently only been done by Illokwent & Esso.

Okay thanks that clears it up i think lol..how cuurrent are these rankings? Should Esso not have 8 points? Lbt champ =3 LBTK ing=3. And Concept champion =2.

I don't believe you gain any extra points for LBT King.

Celsius
07-22-2017, 03:47 PM
Hmm good point...RULE for clarification

Bleu
07-22-2017, 04:42 PM
Okay thanks that clears it up i think lol..how cuurrent are these rankings? Should Esso not have 8 points? Lbt champ =3 LBTK ing=3. And Concept champion =2.

Doesn't work like that. LBT title & LBT king is the same.

Celsius
07-22-2017, 04:48 PM
Aight cool that makes a lot more sense..should prob remove LBT king off the front page of this thread tho kinda confusing

Student
07-22-2017, 04:53 PM
LBT King is a ceramonial title imo so no, you shouldn't get extra points.

Bleu
07-22-2017, 04:54 PM
dunno who put that there tbh editing now

Row
07-22-2017, 06:25 PM
I don't think you should be getting 3 points for both LBT King and LBT title holder. What is LBT King anyways? For holding the title for an extended period of time? same title imo

holding it for 10 defenses .. which is more of a feat than a gc imo

Bleu
07-22-2017, 06:31 PM
pretty sure it's 7

EtH
07-22-2017, 09:48 PM
Hate this idea. UA had a fraction of the opportunities to win titles that someone does these days.

Celsius
07-23-2017, 01:00 AM
pretty sure it's 7

Still think it should be worth 1 point at least
Gc = 5 wins max Lba/LBT king = 7 wins min.
Gc = 4 Points, LBT Champion/King =3 points RULE

RULE
07-23-2017, 03:36 AM
The Greatest Of: Champions


Hall Of Famer - 5 Points
Someone inducted into the letsbeef Hall Of Fame

Grand Champion - 4 Points
Winner of an official Grand Championship tournament. This includes the variants: Beast Mode, Untouchables, Video & Crew champion.

LBA / LBT / LBTT Champion - 3 Points
Winner of a interchangable title, the current ones being the LBA, LBT & LBTT championships. You do NOT get multiple points per reign.

Secondary Champion - 2 Points
Winner of the text, video or audio forms of Topical, Anonymous, Concept, One Bar, Rookie, Bad Blood, Custom Beat or Scheme Championships.

Tag Team Champion - 1 Point
This is for becoming one half of the tag team champions in either Text or Audio form.


This is what it was when i first created it.

The LBT/A King question is a good one. Winning and then defending the title 7-10 times is a hell of a feat. Especially when your defending against the best active battler in a 32 line battle.

I think being a LBT/A King would deserve an addition 4 points but this isnt my department anymore.

Happy its been kept up tp date and treated well tho! Nice to remember the achievements.

Bleu
07-23-2017, 08:35 AM
The "best active battler" challenging for the title hasn't been much of a threat for a while now. In reality, the best the site has to offer havent participated in a ppv in a while. In a GC, everyone is signing up and you don't have a month off between battles.

Erupt da Monsta
07-23-2017, 09:41 AM
Leave the shit as is god damn. Stop tryna find short cuts

Nicholas
07-23-2017, 11:01 AM
Leave the shit as is god damn. Stop tryna find short cuts

I agree with this it's working fine as it is. Lets keep it the same.

Row
07-23-2017, 04:57 PM
This is what it was when i first created it.

The LBT/A King question is a good one. Winning and then defending the title 7-10 times is a hell of a feat. Especially when your defending against the best active battler in a 32 line battle.

I think being a LBT/A King would deserve an addition 4 points but this isnt my department anymore.

Happy its been kept up tp date and treated well tho! Nice to remember the achievements.

cosign. shows consistency

Phil Banks
07-24-2017, 10:54 AM
Top 5... i'll take it. Even though I feel like few guys who were here way back had alot harder time winning GC's and Tournaments myself and pretty much everyone after had it alot easier than say someone back in 09...

X-Calibur
07-24-2017, 11:32 AM
Top 5... i'll take it. Even though I feel like few guys who were here way back had alot harder time winning GC's and Tournaments myself and pretty much everyone after had it alot easier than say someone back in 09...

Agreed .....

Leave it as is !!! Fuck a defence !!!!

Nicholas
07-31-2017, 04:00 AM
Updated for Bleu's tag title win. Taking him within one point of RULE.

RULE
07-31-2017, 06:52 AM
i WILL come outta retirement if you enter one more god damn tourney Bleu

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Celsius
07-31-2017, 04:24 PM
When two people have the same amount of points..how do you decide who gets 6th spot over say 7th spot?

M-Rock
07-31-2017, 05:03 PM
When two people have the same amount of points..how do you decide who gets 6th spot over say 7th spot?

I think whoever gets that point total first gets the higher position

Bleu
07-31-2017, 05:05 PM
When two people have the same amount of points..how do you decide who gets 6th spot over say 7th spot?

From what I've seen the more recent addition goes to the top.

Student
07-31-2017, 05:46 PM
I think whoever gets that point total first gets the higher position

This.

To me it's the equivalent of remembering Neil Armstrong then Buzz Alrdin, first person to do it gets first credit.

Skizzo
08-01-2017, 01:23 PM
That last name on that list though.

Dean
08-01-2017, 01:46 PM
I never even knew I was on this lol

M-Rock
08-10-2017, 03:51 PM
The 1 bar title should be 1 point.. if that

Nicholas
08-11-2017, 06:55 AM
The 1 bar title should be 1 point.. if that

I agree, especially when tag-team is only one point. That said I don't think we should fuck with the scoring system at this point.

Student
08-11-2017, 02:25 PM
I agree, especially when tag-team is only one point. That said I don't think we should fuck with the scoring system at this point.

Just switch it to 1 point for 1 Bar.
I think the scoring system makes sense because it shows (new especially) people who the best on the site is even if they're not placed highly in the ranking system (Basic Arena).

Nicholas
08-11-2017, 03:25 PM
Just switch it to 1 point for 1 Bar.
I think the scoring system makes sense because it shows (new especially) people who the best on the site is even if they're not placed highly in the ranking system (Basic Arena).

OK, but I've just spent a few hours updating the LBA statistic thread so not tonight lol.

Yes, it's a much better guide than the battle ranking system that's for sure. I hadn't really thought of that I'll send newcomers this way in future.

RULE
08-17-2017, 12:14 PM
One Bar was 2 points because the guy still has to win a tourney alone while tag team is half the work each.

Row
08-17-2017, 12:37 PM
Just leave shit as is. No reason for change unless new things are addex

EtH
08-17-2017, 01:06 PM
Whole thing's stupid anyways cause there are still titles handed out to everyone and his kid around here.

Nicholas
08-17-2017, 04:49 PM
Whole thing's stupid anyways cause there are still titles handed out to everyone and his kid around here.

Which ones are you referring to?

Bleu
08-17-2017, 10:23 PM
1 bar turns out to like an 8 bar verse total over the course of a month.. def only deserves one point imo.

Student
08-18-2017, 02:20 PM
Just leave shit as is. No reason for change unless new things are addex

*Looks at One Bar title*

https://media.giphy.com/media/12j7OvGynrwfa8/source.gif

Erupt da Monsta
08-18-2017, 02:28 PM
cosign. shows consistency

Rows remark about making LBT King 3 points.... before the one bar comment. lol

Nicholas
08-18-2017, 06:47 PM
Updated for M-Rock's entry into the Hall of Fame. Moving him from 13th place to 6th place.

Row
08-18-2017, 11:52 PM
Rows remark about making LBT King 3 points.... before the one bar comment. lol

but LBT KING is new , not changing shit that been already established .

Celsius
08-19-2017, 12:59 AM
7 32's tho lol

Erupt da Monsta
08-19-2017, 05:28 PM
I def think LBT/LBA King should warrant an additional point or two. 7 32's, all battles being against top active competition.

Only thing i'd change tbh, besides one bar being 1 point. def should be 1 point

Bleu
08-20-2017, 08:00 PM
Nah it shouldn't merit more points. Even secondary tourneys are more challenging, especially scheme.

With the LBT/LBA you get a whole month to write a 32 for one person and it's definitely not the top competition the site has to offer unlike tourneys where the best of the best come out to play. In a tourney you get 4-5 days to write a 16, and have to do that 4 times vs. different people in a month, minimum.

Lockhart
08-21-2017, 05:15 AM
Honestly ok with making One Bar one point, but I don't think it should be just another tournament ran in the forums. Don't see a point in changing that aspect now after years of having it be a bracket tournament that merits an Orange Title. Sure it's only one bar in like 4 different battles for the winner of the tourney, but it still merits an Orange one since it's against top-level competition, plus why change something that works?

Row
08-21-2017, 09:52 AM
^ thank you. Nothing was wrong with the point system so no need to change unless something new gets added (lbtking)

Nerdism
08-22-2017, 06:20 AM
What are these points your chatting about? Credits?

JFE
08-22-2017, 09:55 AM
Nerdism The front page of this thread has a ranking system for text battlers that use a point system, head back there if you want to check it out

Nicholas
12-20-2017, 03:59 PM
Bleu overtakes RULE to second place. Impressive, especially as he isn't HOF yet.

Nicholas
12-23-2017, 11:07 AM
Updated for Bleu's tag title win. Taking him within one point of RULE.

i WILL come outta retirement if you enter one more god damn tourney Bleu

1/

It was foretold.

RULE
12-23-2017, 11:08 AM
It was foretold.


Bleu :guns:

Aggo
12-23-2017, 12:02 PM
If they decide to make the 1 bar a bracketed tourney I feel like I should get a title. Won that shit after they bumped it to the forums. Give me accolades mofos!

Nicholas
12-23-2017, 12:12 PM
If they decide to make the 1 bar a bracketed tourney I feel like I should get a title. Won that shit after they bumped it to the forums. Give me accolades mofos!

You're confusing the Exclusive One Bar forum tournament with the official one bar tournament. They've actually co-existed for a long time although I think the exclusive forum one was a PPV card for awhile. The consensus earlier in the year was to scrap the official one so it's likely the exclusive one bar will be the only avenue for one bar battles in the future.

I'll re-run the forum one next year and then look at creating a thread for winners in the statistics section.

Student
02-23-2018, 05:31 PM
Updated.

Seul
02-24-2018, 02:33 AM
I am going to assume, since everyone agreed to Bleu being HOF that he will get the 5 points and go above UNKNOWN ARTIST to be the #1?

EtH
02-24-2018, 02:55 AM
Its crazy how few current guys are listed yet the opportunity for titles is doubled.

Bleu
02-24-2018, 05:22 AM
Its crazy how few current guys are listed yet the opportunity for titles is doubled.

The skizzo ducking me esque block of text under my name is the reason why

:D Jk

Lockhart
02-24-2018, 11:14 AM
Its crazy how few current guys are listed yet the opportunity for titles is doubled.

I technically should be on this list now considering I won the LBT and have a Secondary title.

SpleNDiD
04-14-2018, 12:38 PM
"Everyone who has won more than one title will be displayed on the league table. "

splendid won one title right? lol

Disregard that nigga anyways lmaoooo

Who are you again ? Still making 8$ a subway whoever you are ?

EtH
04-14-2018, 05:45 PM
Marvelous marvel back at it.

Rant won the gc so you lost your claim to fame splenda.

Erupt da Monsta
05-02-2018, 01:16 AM
8Who are you again ? Still making 8$ a subway whoever you are ?

Lol firehouse is better. and im your daddy, son.

Lol good ole rant

Student
05-08-2018, 06:19 PM
Updated, @Erron Black (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=892872) has moved up to #22 with his LBA title.

Student
12-14-2018, 05:34 PM
Updated.

Seul you should've been on this 2 championships ago but you're sitting at #15 now, tied with Real Talk & a one above DaDDiO, not a bad place to be in just one year.

Row also moves up to #10 from #22 for the reinstating of his GC win and his recent Concept championship.

Aggo
12-14-2018, 05:38 PM
Oh shit, Im on this list? Who knew.

Row
12-14-2018, 05:42 PM
Student should be 11,



and does LBT count for anything ?

Student
12-14-2018, 05:50 PM
@Student (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=877612) should be 11,
and does LBT count for anything ?
It's 3 Points, it's in the O.P., that's why you're at 14.

Row
12-14-2018, 06:39 PM
It's 3 Points, it's in the O.P., that's why you're at 14.

sorry i confused number with score

Student
02-07-2019, 09:37 PM
Updated @Rieper (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=906233) congrats on moving up to #7 with 17 points with your recent championships.

Student
02-12-2019, 08:53 PM
Updated Seul congrats on moving to #11 now

Student
02-18-2019, 06:43 PM
Updated again Rieper congrats on moving ahead of RULE with 21 points to be #3 overall.

Student
03-04-2019, 06:03 PM
Updated again Rieper you're now at 23 points with the latest Concept Championship

Student
04-16-2019, 03:51 PM
Updated x3 in a row @Rieper (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=906233) you're now tied with UNKNOWN ARTIST at 25 total points

Seul
08-17-2019, 02:46 AM
@X

Please update my stats when you got a moment, brother. I don't know how many pts should be awarded for LBA King since i'm the first. Also, I believe the "Winter Audio Champion" title weighs more than an orange title, but less than a GC. Respects bruv.

Can't even tag the guy. :(

I'm a noob. LOL.

The Saaxxx Baba
08-24-2019, 10:39 AM
and all of you may suck my dick and choke to death while at it.

Erupt da Monsta
09-06-2019, 01:48 AM
I should have 20 points now I believe not sure if y’all even still tracking this but yeah

joan of arc
09-06-2019, 02:58 AM
I should have 20 points now I believe not sure if y’all even still tracking this but yeah

i'll make sure it'd done.

Erupt da Monsta
09-09-2019, 02:02 PM
i'll make sure it'd done.

good shit homie.

Edgeworth
12-14-2019, 11:04 PM
Can we get this updated whenever

RULE
12-15-2019, 03:19 AM
Can we get this updated whenever

Will update this today

Seul
12-15-2019, 06:23 PM
Also, couple questions

How many points do we get for the seasonal tournaments? It was supposed to be the same level of achievement as a Grand Champion, and also, is there any point differential for LBA/LBT Champion & King? There should be since King requires 7 months in a row, compared to just holding onto a title for a month before it gets taken.

RULE
12-15-2019, 06:25 PM
Also, couple questions

How many points do we get for the seasonal tournaments? It was supposed to be the same level of achievement as a Grand Champion, and also, is there any point differential for LBA/LBT Champion & King? There should be since King requires 7 months in a row, compared to just holding onto a title for a month before it gets taken.

I think i'll re-jig this soon.

People can win the LBT / LBA off of a no show so i dont think the points should be higher than a Orange Tourney.

But yeah LBT / LBA king requires 7+ victories so i'll try to come up with a system thats fair.

Seul
12-15-2019, 06:27 PM
I think i'll re-jig this soon.

People can win the LBT / LBA off of a no show so i dont think the points should be higher than a Orange Tourney.

But yeah LBT / LBA king requires 7+ victories so i'll try to come up with a system thats fair.

Sounds good, thank you for the prompt response.

Kiwi Peewee
12-15-2019, 06:38 PM
I was working through this myself and made a similar version but much more comprehensive, which I made a thread about months ago that I can't be bothered finding. My points system was:

10 points per HOF induction (so Bleu and Erupt get this twice)
5 points for winning an Audio, Text or Video GC
5 points for making it to the final of an Audio, Text or Video GC (so the winner gets 10 in total)
3 points for winning a secondary title in audio, text or video
3 points for making it to the final of a secondary tournament in audio, text or video
2 points for winning the tag team or rookie of the year tournaments
2 points for making it to the final of the tag team or ROTY tournaments
4 points for winning the LBA/T/TT off of someone else
3 points for a successful defence of the LBA/T/TT (no-shows not included)
2 points for earning an unsuccessful title shot at the LBA/T/TT (callouts not included)
2 points for winning a cypher competition
1 point for a top 3 placing in a cypher competition
5 points for placing 1st in a major track competition
3 points for placing 2nd in a major track competition
2 points for placing 3rd in a major track competition
3 points for placing 1st in a secondary track competition
2 points for placing 2nd in a secondary track competition
1 point for placing 3rd in a secondary track competition
1 point for each positive LetsBeef award received related to battling/trackmaking

RULE
12-15-2019, 06:46 PM
I was working through this myself and made a similar version but much more comprehensive, which I made a thread about months ago that I can't be bothered finding. My points system was:

10 points per HOF induction (so Bleu and Erupt get this twice)
5 points for winning an Audio, Text or Video GC
5 points for making it to the final of an Audio, Text or Video GC (so the winner gets 10 in total)
3 points for winning a secondary title in audio, text or video
3 points for making it to the final of a secondary tournament in audio, text or video
2 points for winning the tag team or rookie of the year tournaments
2 points for making it to the final of the tag team or ROTY tournaments
4 points for winning the LBA/T/TT off of someone else
3 points for a successful defence of the LBA/T/TT (no-shows not included)
2 points for earning an unsuccessful title shot at the LBA/T/TT (callouts not included)
2 points for winning a cypher competition
1 point for a top 3 placing in a cypher competition
5 points for placing 1st in a major track competition
3 points for placing 2nd in a major track competition
2 points for placing 3rd in a major track competition
3 points for placing 1st in a secondary track competition
2 points for placing 2nd in a secondary track competition
1 point for placing 3rd in a secondary track competition
1 point for each positive LetsBeef award received related to battling/trackmaking

I like elements of this. Im gonna come up with a template and run it by you before going live.

TradeMarked
12-16-2019, 04:08 AM
Can you delete the vote on my battle? It's for me but that person is in my crew, they joined before i seen the vote. RULE
https://www.letsbeef.com/battle_details.php?section=tb&id=515505

RULE
12-23-2019, 03:06 AM
The Greatest Of: Champions


In this article we look at the sites greatest ever champions, using a league table / points system to rank them in an all time order. This article will also highlight those who have achieved rare feats over the multiple prominent formats on the site.


The Points System

The following system will be used to score and rank the sites champions, with the number of points rising dependent on the difficult of the tournament/achievements. If a person has won titles over multiple accounts, they will be represented on the table by their most well known alias. Everyone who has won more than one title will be displayed on the league table.


Hall Of Famer - 10 Points
Someone inducted into the LetsBeef Hall Of Fame. You get 10 points Per Induction.

Grand Champion - 8 Points
Winner of an official Grand Championship tournament. This includes the variants: Beast Mode, Untouchables, Video & Crew champion.

Secondary Champion - 5 Points
Winner of the text, video or audio forms of Topical, Anonymous, Concept, One Bar, Scheme, Concept or Seasonal Throwdown Championships.

THC / AHC / LBT / LBA King - 5 Points
Winner of the PPV "King" title, usually granted for reaching a certain number of title match victories.

Tag Team / Rookie Champion - 3 Points
Winner of the text, video or audio forms of Tag Team or Rookie Of The Year championship.

THC / AHC / LBA / LBT / LBTT Champion - 2 Points
Winner of a interchangeable title championship. You get 2 points for every reign that includes 1 non-no show victory.

Grand Champion Runner-Up - 2 Point
This is finishing runner-up in a Grand Championship level tournament.

Tag Team / Rookie Champion - 1 Points
This is for finishing runner-up in all Orange level tournaments with the exception of the Tag Team or Rookie Of The Year championships.


The League Table





The Cross-Format Champions


The Multiple Champions


Miscellaneous Statistics


This will be completely updated today under a new points-scoring matrix.

RULE
12-27-2019, 10:29 AM
uPDATED.

Seul
12-27-2019, 10:10 PM
Nice, thank's for showing this page some love... even though I got finessed for 4th. :)

REZN
12-27-2019, 10:44 PM
If runner up is worth 2 points, I should be at 15.

Edit:

Nevermind. Figured tag was a secondary title.

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Concept is in secondary twice, though.

Celsius
12-27-2019, 11:23 PM
Good work. Don't think you should omit the number after a tie, though

RULE
12-28-2019, 02:28 AM
Nice, thank's for showing this page some love... even though I got finessed for 4th. :)

You still active. i expect you above me soon. *pause*

RULE
12-28-2019, 02:37 AM
Good work. Don't think you should omit the number after a tie, though

Agreed and changed



If anyone thinks there calculation is wrong just post your accolades here. We should be able to clear it up easy enough.

Seul
12-28-2019, 03:14 AM
You still active. i expect you above me soon. *pause*

Yeah, light work.... that's Akon in Africa!

RULE
12-28-2019, 09:43 AM
Yeah, light work.... that's Akon in Africa!

BARZ

Manhattan
12-28-2019, 11:06 AM
Honestly...not digging this at all. Why would you get points for being a runner up? This is greatest of CHAMPIONS!

Locchart
12-28-2019, 11:30 AM
Honestly...not digging this at all. Why would you get points for being a runner up? This is greatest of CHAMPIONS!
Pretty much this.

RULE
12-28-2019, 01:59 PM
Honestly...not digging this at all. Why would you get points for being a runner up? This is greatest of CHAMPIONS!

It was to try and compensate the imbalance of the THC / LBT titles.

And you have to of won SOMETHING to get on this list.

Celsius
12-28-2019, 05:24 PM
Agreed and changed



If anyone thinks there calculation is wrong just post your accolades here. We should be able to clear it up easy enough.

Phill Banks and Stricc should both be 8 and M-Rock should be 9 and so on.


You had it like this:


8.Stricc
8. Phill Banks
10. M-Rock

That's what I mean by not skipping the number after a tie. (9)

RULE
12-28-2019, 05:30 PM
Phill Banks and Stricc should both be 8 and M-Rock should be 9 and so on.


You had it like this:


8.Stricc
8. Phill Banks
10. M-Rock

That's what I mean by not skipping the number after a tie. (9)

Yeah i decided just to give higher ranked to thought who had a harder path to there points. There isnt too many ties anyways.

Kiwi Peewee
12-28-2019, 06:22 PM
Phill Banks and Stricc should both be 8 and M-Rock should be 9 and so on.


You had it like this:


8.Stricc
8. Phill Banks
10. M-Rock

That's what I mean by not skipping the number after a tie. (9)

The reason the numbers afterward were omitted is that if there are 8 people who got more points than you, you must be the ninth Greatest Champion, right? Even if two of those 8 people have the same number of points, that doesn’t actually affect the fact that there are 8 people better than you and you are the ninth best.

Celsius
12-28-2019, 08:17 PM
The reason the numbers afterward were omitted is that if there are 8 people who got more points than you, you must be the ninth Greatest Champion, right? Even if two of those 8 people have the same number of points, that doesn’t actually affect the fact that there are 8 people better than you and you are the ninth best.


Good Expo, thx.

Manhattan
12-29-2019, 06:15 PM
It was to try and compensate the imbalance of the THC / LBT titles.

And you have to of won SOMETHING to get on this list.

I like the idea of the new points structure. I just can't understand why people would get points for losing battles. It's supposed to be the greatest of champions.

It would be like if you tallied up the greatest nfl champions. The Minnesota Vikings wouldn't get put on the list for losing in 4 superbowls. Only teams with a championship would and the teams with a finals appearances would be irrelevant.


What have Rican and Wigsplit won?

Kiwi Peewee
12-29-2019, 06:26 PM
I like the idea of the new points structure. I just can't understand why people would get points for losing battles. It's supposed to be the greatest of champions.

It would be like if you tallied up the greatest nfl champions. The Minnesota Vikings wouldn't get put on the list for losing in 4 superbowls. Only teams with a championship would and the teams with a finals appearances would be irrelevant.


What have Rican and Wigsplit won?

Neither Rican nor Wigsplit have won anything, the only criterion for making the list as it currently is is achieving at least 2 of the things mentioned, but I think it might be worth changing it so that you have to have won at least 1 thing.

With 2nd place people, as I understand it they aren't getting their points for losing the final but for making it to the final, which is arguably just as hard as winning it. There've been quite a few instances where someone has gone through a murderer's row to make it to the final and been the favourite and then either due to irl circumstances or choking or something else they've lost it at the final hurdle; although they obviously don't deserve the same points as a winner I think this is worth recognising because just making it to any final is still a very difficult achievement. That's just my view though.

RULE
12-29-2019, 06:30 PM
I like the idea of the new points structure. I just can't understand why people would get points for losing battles. It's supposed to be the greatest of champions.

It would be like if you tallied up the greatest nfl champions. The Minnesota Vikings wouldn't get put on the list for losing in 4 superbowls. Only teams with a championship would and the teams with a finals appearances would be irrelevant.


What have Rican and Wigsplit won?

The runners-up points are to combat the ease of racking up LBT points.

Im open to removing them if people want.

& Only people who have a title of some sort are on the list. If people (Rican & Wig) for example have slipped through i'll take em off when i spot them.

Edgeworth
12-29-2019, 08:17 PM
The ranking system in a vacuum is a good system, it's just using that system under the name "greatest of: CHAMPIONS" throws it off a bit. If it was just like a "greatest" list it would make more sense. That's all that i really think is going on here.

Student
01-12-2020, 09:31 PM
If LBA King is below Secondary Champion then RULE 's title should be adjusted, like Seul 's

Student
02-12-2020, 10:09 PM
Rieper is now #1 with 94 total points (Not counting an obvious HOF Induction)


Congrats Lock!

Locchart
02-12-2020, 10:10 PM
Rieper is now #1 with 94 total points (Not counting an obvious HOF Induction)


Congrats Lock!

Thanks, Stuey! Finally got to the top of the mountain!

Kiwi Peewee
02-13-2020, 05:51 PM
Rieper actually remains in second place by my count. Noir/Bleu was in both GC finals, which if we're still counting those points puts him on 96. Rieper has narrowed the gap to 2, but Bleu remains the most successful for the time being.

That being said I can't remember whether Rieper's pending HOF induction was counted when making this so that might put him in the lead, idk.

Student
08-04-2020, 07:16 PM
@Rieper (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=906233) actually remains in second place by my count. Noir/Bleu was in both GC finals, which if we're still counting those points puts him on 96. Rieper has narrowed the gap to 2, but Bleu remains the most successful for the time being.

That being said I can't remember whether Rieper's pending HOF induction was counted when making this so that might put him in the lead, idk.
With his HOF induction he's at #1 now with 104 points :high:

Celsius
08-05-2020, 12:13 AM
Should I have 19 points now?

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Also Sixx shot and reefer have the same rank

Óðinn
08-05-2020, 05:05 AM
I should be on this list... Second place in tag team tourney, teamed with SWAVY and was against Askari & STEELO. Topical Winner and also third in two other Tourneys.

Edit: i make it 12 points...? :high:

Manhattan
08-05-2020, 05:09 PM
Mine should be at 27 points now

The Ghost of Freak
08-05-2020, 07:28 PM
I should have 5000 points.

Erupt da Monsta
08-05-2020, 07:35 PM
I should also be tied with Seul for #5 after my second HOF induction. 10 more points ..

Rowdy
08-06-2020, 08:34 PM
Since we're all bickering, I should be at 23 points



But ill edit these whenever I get the chance, folks.

Erupt da Monsta
08-07-2020, 12:57 PM
Lol good shit. I should actually Be at 52 , +1 for secondary title runner up in the last audio concept tourney vs Lockhart/Rieper

2nd HOF induction 10 points
Audio Concept Runner Up -1 point

Kiwi Peewee
09-17-2020, 11:11 PM
Updated this; turns out I had the calculations wrong previously.Congrats to Lockhart for moving past Bleu into #1 spot.

I ordered the people tied on points by 1) # of GCs 2) # of championships of any sort 3) alphabetical order; RULE you might want to switch some of these because they were meant to be ordered on difficulty of opposition which just isn't something I know enough to judge.

Kiwi Peewee
10-27-2020, 05:54 AM
Updated again. Congrats to Bleu who returns to #1 spot.

Kiwi Peewee
11-01-2020, 11:39 PM
Congrats to Fidel who jumps onto the list in 50th spot following his THC victory.

Kiwi Peewee
03-20-2021, 08:47 AM
Updated. Lockhart and Bleu are now tied in the lead on 97 points following the tag tourney, a situation that looks set to remain for a very long time.

Also big congrats to Edgeworth who picked up the THC, LBT and Tag Team titles since this was last updated, moving him over 10 spots up the board.

Erupt da Monsta
03-20-2021, 12:01 PM
I might have to make a run for that 5th spot

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Congrats to edgeworth !!

Student
10-23-2021, 12:13 AM
Updated, congrats to Lockhart on his 2x HOF Induction, moving to the top with 107 total points.

Student
02-07-2022, 06:04 PM
Updated Rowdy


You've gone from #22 to #15, tied with Ticket with 28 overall points

Student
05-07-2022, 11:27 AM
Updated Masked-Reaper Phroxen Aggo

Mindless
05-08-2022, 11:46 PM
Updated @Masked-Reaper (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=897883) @Phroxen (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=886389) @Aggo (https://www.letsbeef.com/forums/member.php?u=891607)
Is there a spreadsheet for this yet?

Student
05-10-2022, 11:36 AM
Is there a spreadsheet for this yet?
No, seems like a lot of work with 62 Champs but if you're down we can collaborate on one

Mindless
05-10-2022, 05:33 PM
No, seems like a lot of work with 62 Champs but if you're down we can collaborate on one


Shouldn't be too bad. Just data input. As long as all the data is easily findable it shouldn't take long.